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Article #3565Re: Santa Cruz Homeless Update - Melee erupts at farmers market drum circle
From: dhm_at_best_dot_com
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:13
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:13
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On Sep 15, 3:41 pm, dhm_at_best_dot_...@yahoo.com wrote: > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > Drum Circle Defense 3:30 PM Wednesday September 17th > > Monday, September 15, 2008 2:27 PM > From: "Robert Norse" <rnor...@hotmail.com> > To: emphat...@comcast.net > > http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/09/15/18538444.php > > Title: Keeping Public Spaces Public > START DATE: Wednesday September 17 > TIME: 3:30 PM - 6:30 PM > Location Details: > In parking lot #4 at Cedar and Cathcart--the lot next to the > WednesdayFarmer's Market. At the traditional spot used by the > community drummersfor the last 10 years under the trees. > Event Type: Party/Street Party > Contact Name Robert Norse > Email Address rnorse3 [at] hotmail.com > Phone Number > Address > Come defend the weekly community gathering from police and > politicalharassment. Food Not Bombs regularly fed there--except on > September3rd--when police staked out the area and dispersed the > participants. > > HUFF (Homeless United for Friendship & Freedom) will be petitioning > and copwatching there. > > A description of last week's successful restoration of public space > can be found at: > 'Victory at Parking Lot #4 -- The beat goes on!'http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/09/11/18536533.php > > A series of excellent photographs of the restored Drum Circle > (withsupportive Trash Orchestra, Raging Grannies, community supporter > JoeSchultz, and budget-busting SCPDsters) can be found at > 'Keeping Santa Cruz Weird: Is Drumming a Crime?'http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/09/11/18536737.php > > More background on issues and information about Mayor Coonerty's 15 > Minute Parking Lot Panic law can be found at > 'Trash Orchestra to Defend Drummers from SCPD'http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/09/09/18534554.php > and > 'Blueshirts Erase Drum Circle: New Ban on Public Assembly Near > Farmer's Market'http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/09/05/18533487.php > > Bring cameras, camcorders, audio recorders, and friends. > > It is possible but unlikely that police will attempt to cite people > forsimply being in the parking lot under the Parking Lot Panic Law. > > The text of the law can be found at:http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/09/11/18536737.php?show_comment... > > In this case, police must prove you DON'T have a vehicle there and > arenot walking directly through. Or they have to prove you've been > therefor more than 15 minutes. And that they have warned you on a > prioroccasion. > > You don't have to prove you DO have a vehiclethere. You DON'T have to > answer any of their questions about thisissue. In fact, the wisest > thing is to continue to repeat 'am I free togo?' and then simply walk > over and talk with a friend. > > Ifthey indicate you are not free to go, ask those around you to > witnessthe harassment, but ask questions but don't answer them. > > Technically, if you leave the parking lot every fourteen > minutes,police will likely have no probable cause to talk with you, > since howdo they know whose car is whose? > > If police attempt to involveyou in dialogue about 'better places for > drumming', 'the marijuanaproblem', or any other issue, I suggest you > advise them to set up ameeting at another time when people can meet on > a level playing fieldand discuss these issues. If police call their > activity 'educational',suggest they do so at a time when their > behavior can't be mistaken forintimidation. > > Given the number of supporters who regularly show up, ticketing of > this kind is unlikely. > > I'm not a lawyer; these suggestions are just my personal opinions. > It's most important to use your own judgment. > > -----End Forward----- Melee erupts at farmers market drum circle Genevieve Bookwalter - Sentinel staff writer Article Launched: 09/18/2008 01:33:54 AM PDT found at: http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/localnews/ci_10496396
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