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In article <1172454461.376750.93700@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>,
<dhm_at_best_dot_com@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Feb 25, 1:03 pm, Tim May <timc...@removethis.got.net> wrote:
> 
> > .........And yet they drift into town, find the needle
> > exchange place, sign up for the marijuana giveaways, seek "benefits,"
> > complain about how they are not being given shelter, and whine to
> > liberals like Becky and Robert and Dan that they are being repressed.)
> >
> 
> Don't you fall into the same trap as the other jerks.  This journalism
> is a hobby with me.  I started into the Homeless-schtick with the
> attitude and reading of a land use attorney.  The others all wanted to
> be the Homeless Advocate-Representative Beegshots.  I've been
> 'homeless' for the better part of 35 years.  Do you think that I ever
> wanted these people to 'represent' me?  Hell no.

A strange kind of "journalism" when one ONLY forwards and reports the
Trotskyite politics. 

Even for the typically biased "reporters" of our age, they at least
make a token effort to analyze what is being said.

Speaking of which, you forwarded Becky's claim that people are being
harassed because they don't do enough shopping downtown....and yet I
reported that in more than 22 years of spending a _lot_ of time in
downtown Santa Cruz I have not been harassed (except by bums, winoes,
and beggars), nor have I been arrested, run out of town, ticketed, etc.

And this is without any apparent "shopping" on my part. Which means
Becky's causal claim is shot to pieces.

So, as a self-proclaimed "journalist", did you investigate Becky's
claim? Did you evaluate it and her/their other socialist propaganda for
evidence of truth or falsity?

What you are, Dan, is a mouthpiece. Not a journalist, a mouthpiece. 

This is what someone who only forwards or reports one particular group
of people's views is. A mouthpiece.

> 
> Robert and Becky closed off their list in a way that the public could
> not get access to what they were saying.  They've always been Usenet
> clueless.  Do you remember my website that had original and rare
> documents that nobody would want you to read?  Get it?  The website
> had little to do with 'homelessness'.  It had a lot to do with
> history.  Does that give you a clue about why I have few reservations
> about forwarding their stuff?  Everyone, "left" and "right", will
> accuse me of being the other.

If they wish to not be read, honor their wish.

Frankly, Norse is much more interested in stamping his feet and making
threats to hold his breath in City Council meetings than he is in
making any kind of _case_ for what he (apparently) wants. 

I add "apparently" because it's never clear what his "demands"
are....building hotels for the bums, sending the word out to bums all
across Califiornia to come and move into the hotels? Free food for
those who don't want to work? Assigned camping spots in all of the
city's parks, so that taxpayers will not be able to use the very parks
their taxes have paid for? And so on. He thinks of himself as some sort
of political theorist, but where is his plan? And who has ever
critiqued or analyzed it?

This is why he rants on one-page screeds that cannot be analyzed in any
meaningful way. This is why he fumes and rants at City Council
meetings. This is why he doesn't want his "thoughts" propagated on the
Net--he knows full well how incoherent they are.

And you, his mouthpiece, are not honoring his obvious intentions to
keep  his words limited to his quasi-literate street people allies. 

"Yeah, what Robert said! Right on! Food, not bombs! We gotta shut that
motherfucking bookstore DOWN! Yo, got any blow?"

> 
> At one point I learned things from Becky like who was suspected to be
> going around with baseball bats smashing people in their tents.  That
> made it a different ball game for me. 

If the cops refuse to enforce the laws, the people have to.

There is plenty of wilderness for people to camp in. But the bums are
not interested in camping qua camping. Rather, they want "social
services," access to drug-dealing centers, free food, handouts from
governemnt agencies, and no need to work. And they think San Lorenzo
Park is their toilet, their living room, and their place of business.
When the bums own the public places, and the cops look away, time for
the people to start bashing heads....

The Trollbusters cleaned up the bum problem for about six months back
when they were active. They accomplished more by knocking some heads
and pushing bums off the bridges than all of the do-gooder, blissninny
crap since.

Busting heads of people who are stealing from us is morally righteous.

Don't feed the pigeons.


--Tim May