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Re: (fwd) Santa Cruz Homeless Update - Middle Class Councilmembers Attempt to Pit the Police Against the Poor

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From: Rudy Canoza
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:46
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Chip Flintknapper wrote:
> Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> Chip Flintknapper wrote:
>>> Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> Chip Flintknapper wrote:
>>>>> Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>> dhm_at_best_dot_com@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> dhm_at_best_dot_com@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >From Robert Norse Tue Jan 9 00:31:27 2007
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Date:     Tue, 09 Jan 2007 00:31:27 -0800
>>>>>>>>> Subject:  City Council Moves Today To Expand Police Power Against
>>>>>>>>> Poor
>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>> More Police Punishing the Poor in the Pogonip
>>>>>>>> This massive and massively incoherent load of SHIT perfectly
>>>>>>>> illustrates, again, the big myths of homelessness, mostly in its
>>>>>>>> lumping of all the homeless together as people "just like you and
>>>>>>>> me"
>>>>>>>> who happen only to be poor.  It's crap.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is dishonest to talk about "the homeless" as an undifferentiated
>>>>>>>> class of people.  Most homeless are seriously mentally ill, have
>>>>>>>> major
>>>>>>>> subtance abuse problems, or both.  VERY FEW homeless people are
>>>>>>>> "just
>>>>>>>> like you and me."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Santa Cruz is one of those places infected with a naive form of
>>>>>>>> liberalism that makes a mockery of true compassion.  The answer
>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>> plight of homeless people is not to try to keep them homeless, as
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> idiot seems to think.
>>>>>>> Which robot factory did you come out of?
>>>>>> Nice whiff-off, asshole.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are full of shit about homelessness and the "virtues" of homeless
>>>>>> people.  Normal people don't like them congregating around parks and
>>>>>> business districts, shitting and pissing wherever and whenever,
>>>>>> haranguing people, degrading the quality of life in neighborhoods.
>>>>>>  Normal people are sick of them, and they're even more sick of
>>>>>> jackballs
>>>>>> like you who don't really give a fuck about the homeless, but instead
>>>>>> are merely using them as pawns in order to lash out at good, normal,
>>>>>> productive citizens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You really are an asshole.  You are USING homeless people for a really
>>>>>> juvenile, misanthropic agenda.
>>>>> You're right, they never should have been there in the first place.
>>>>> There weren't any in 1980, but there were hundreds of thousands in
>>>>> 1981.
>>>> False.
>>> You must not be old enough to remember it.
>> I'm older than you.  There was no sudden explosion of homelessness.
>>
> 
> It happened about June of 1981.

No, it didn't.  It didn't happen all at once.  You 
don't know what you're talking about.


> You can't say that it didn't happen.

Nothing particular happened then.  Homelessness didn't 
occur all at once.


> There was no "homeless" population prior to that time.

False.


> 
>>>>> [snip remaining rabid foam]
>>> Rabid foam?
>> The ESL lessons aren't going too well, I see.
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