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Mexicans attack woman in car at K-Mart on 41st Ave., Capitola
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Author: Tim May
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 07:14
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A guy doing some tree work for me told me about an incident he observed
today (Tues., 2 March), around noon, in front of the K-Mart on 41st
Ave. in Capitola, CA. (A town a few miles from Santa Cruz, for those
outside this area.)

This K-Mart parking lot is one of the primary "Illegal alien worker
pick-up zones," where home owners and small businesses pick up day
laborers for off-the-books, under-the-table day labor. There are
several such pick-up zones in Santa Cruz County, with some of them
having 30-40 illegal aliens (or in PC speak: "undocumented workers")
milling around.

Anyway, my tree trimmer saw an elderly woman in a green Toyota sedan
pull up to where some of the Mexicans were milling around. As he
described it, the car was immediately surrounded by about 20-30 men. 

She either couldn't reach a deal, or she got flustered by the huge
crowd, or something, as she started to pull away. Her car was blocked
by several Mexicans and then dozens of them proceeded to _lift up_ her
car from all sides.

(Both my tree guy and I said to each other that had this happened,
we'd've gunned our engines and--hopefully, when one of the drive wheels
touched down again--killed a few of these wetbacks. Citing fear of
imminent death as our defense in court. "Better to be tried by twelve
citizens than carried by six or carried by 20 Mexicans.")

He said the Mexicans let the car down and the flustered (in his
opinion) old lady drove away. He told me he considered crossing the
street to chase the Mexicans away, but it all happened and was over
fairly quickly  (and of course, without some serious firepower,
fighting off 20 Mexican illegals is dangerous...the Korean shop owners
found that only shotguns and AR-15s from rooftops worked against the
negroes and Mexicans).

We both plan to look for a report on this incident in tomorrow's "Santa
Cruz Sentinel" (online summarized version at :
<http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/>  )

A general comment: These parking lots are filled with roving bands of
Mexicans. Up until about 5-7 years ago, roughly, the white buses used
by INS were seen fairly regularly, with INS raiding places where
illegal aliens were found. No more. My neighbor called about some
illegals working for one of his competitors, and was told by the San
Francisco office (50 miles away) that the offices were being moved back
to Washington, D.C. There have not been raids for illegal aliens in
several years here in Santa Cruz (or San Jose, as near as I can find
out). Beach Flats, Pajaro, Watsonville, and several other nearby areas
are teeming with illegals. And yet INS does nothing.

And some fraction of those illegals are the desperate men wandering
around in the K-Mart and San Lorenzo Lumber parking lots, picking up
the cars of little old ladies. And cops and sheriffs are nowhere to be
seen.

It's why people should carry guns within easy reach, the law be damned.
The "law" would just as soon look the other way as Mexican illegals do
their thing, but is worried that an NRA member will dare to have his
Second Amendment-guaranteed firearm rights.

What a disgusting nation this has turned into.


--Tim May
Re: Mexicans attack woman in car at K-Mart on 41st Ave., Capitola
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Author: Polybius
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 18:17
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Tim May wrote:

> A guy doing some tree work for me told me about an incident he observed
> today (Tues., 2 March), around noon, in front of the K-Mart on 41st
> Ave. in Capitola, CA. (A town a few miles from Santa Cruz, for those
> outside this area.)
> 
> This K-Mart parking lot is one of the primary "Illegal alien worker
> pick-up zones," where home owners and small businesses pick up day
> laborers for off-the-books, under-the-table day labor. There are
> several such pick-up zones in Santa Cruz County, with some of them
> having 30-40 illegal aliens (or in PC speak: "undocumented workers")
> milling around.
> 
> Anyway, my tree trimmer saw an elderly woman in a green Toyota sedan
> pull up to where some of the Mexicans were milling around. As he
> described it, the car was immediately surrounded by about 20-30 men. 
> 
> She either couldn't reach a deal, or she got flustered by the huge
> crowd, or something, as she started to pull away. Her car was blocked
> by several Mexicans and then dozens of them proceeded to _lift up_ her
> car from all sides.
> 
> (Both my tree guy and I said to each other that had this happened,
> we'd've gunned our engines and--hopefully, when one of the drive wheels
> touched down again--killed a few of these wetbacks. Citing fear of
> imminent death as our defense in court. "Better to be tried by twelve
> citizens than carried by six or carried by 20 Mexicans.")
> 
> He said the Mexicans let the car down and the flustered (in his
> opinion) old lady drove away. He told me he considered crossing the
> street to chase the Mexicans away, but it all happened and was over
> fairly quickly  (and of course, without some serious firepower,
> fighting off 20 Mexican illegals is dangerous...the Korean shop owners
> found that only shotguns and AR-15s from rooftops worked against the
> negroes and Mexicans).
> 
> We both plan to look for a report on this incident in tomorrow's "Santa
> Cruz Sentinel" (online summarized version at :
> <http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/>  )
> 
> A general comment: These parking lots are filled with roving bands of
> Mexicans. Up until about 5-7 years ago, roughly, the white buses used
> by INS were seen fairly regularly, with INS raiding places where
> illegal aliens were found. No more. My neighbor called about some
> illegals working for one of his competitors, and was told by the San
> Francisco office (50 miles away) that the offices were being moved back
> to Washington, D.C. There have not been raids for illegal aliens in
> several years here in Santa Cruz (or San Jose, as near as I can find
> out). Beach Flats, Pajaro, Watsonville, and several other nearby areas
> are teeming with illegals. And yet INS does nothing.
> 
> And some fraction of those illegals are the desperate men wandering
> around in the K-Mart and San Lorenzo Lumber parking lots, picking up
> the cars of little old ladies. And cops and sheriffs are nowhere to be
> seen.
> 
> It's why people should carry guns within easy reach, the law be damned.
> The "law" would just as soon look the other way as Mexican illegals do
> their thing, but is worried that an NRA member will dare to have his
> Second Amendment-guaranteed firearm rights.
> 
> What a disgusting nation this has turned into.
> 
> 
> --Tim May

Now that we are getting down to the pre-convention stage of the 
presidential election, I think it is really important to contact the 
candidates of both parties, and tell them the type of anecdotes that are 
so often posted on this newsgroup.

Be sure and cc: a few of your local politicians too.
Re: Mexicans attack woman in car at K-Mart on 41st Ave., Capitola
#224
Author: IYAMME
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 01:52
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On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 23:14:50 -0800, Tim May
<timcmay@removethis.got.net> wrote:

>

rant snipped
>
>What a disgusting nation this has turned into.
>

So quitcher bellyachin' and move.
Re: Mexicans attack woman in car at K-Mart on 41st Ave., Capitola
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Author: trebor
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 06:23
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Tim May <timcmay@removethis.got.net> wrote:

>What a disgusting nation this has turned into.

My father came to the same conclusion almost 50 years ago when he read
in the papers that an elderly San Francisco man had been convicted of
manslaughter for shooting an intruder through a closed door, seconds
before the intruder would have kicked in the door. That was the final
straw for my father.

But my father was no Usenet whiner. He didn't run his mouth off; he got
the hell out of here and moved to a another country.

And not that it's ironic or anything but he moved to Mexico, where I was
born and grew up.
Re: Mexicans attack woman in car at K-Mart on 41st Ave., Capitola
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Author: Karl Hiller
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 18:00
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In ba.general Tim May <timcmay@removethis.got.net> wrote:

> A guy doing some tree work for me told me about an incident he observed
> today (Tues., 2 March), around noon, in front of the K-Mart on 41st
> Ave. in Capitola, CA. (A town a few miles from Santa Cruz, for those
> outside this area.)

> This K-Mart parking lot is one of the primary "Illegal alien worker
> pick-up zones," where home owners and small businesses pick up day
> laborers for off-the-books, under-the-table day labor. There are
> several such pick-up zones in Santa Cruz County, with some of them
> having 30-40 illegal aliens (or in PC speak: "undocumented workers")
> milling around.

> Anyway, my tree trimmer saw an elderly woman in a green Toyota sedan
> pull up to where some of the Mexicans were milling around. As he
> described it, the car was immediately surrounded by about 20-30 men. 

> She either couldn't reach a deal, or she got flustered by the huge
> crowd, or something, as she started to pull away. Her car was blocked
> by several Mexicans and then dozens of them proceeded to _lift up_ her
> car from all sides.

> (Both my tree guy and I said to each other that had this happened,
> we'd've gunned our engines and--hopefully, when one of the drive wheels
> touched down again--killed a few of these wetbacks. Citing fear of
> imminent death as our defense in court. "Better to be tried by twelve
> citizens than carried by six or carried by 20 Mexicans.")

> He said the Mexicans let the car down and the flustered (in his
> opinion) old lady drove away. He told me he considered crossing the
> street to chase the Mexicans away, but it all happened and was over
> fairly quickly  (and of course, without some serious firepower,
> fighting off 20 Mexican illegals is dangerous...the Korean shop owners
> found that only shotguns and AR-15s from rooftops worked against the
> negroes and Mexicans).

If only those Mexicans had owned their own guns -- they wouldn't have had 
to strain themselves trying to pick up the car!

Free guns for undocumented workers!
Re: Mexicans attack woman in car at K-Mart on 41st Ave., Capitola
#220
Author: H. Reader
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 23:21
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"Karl Hiller" <kreniigh@ySaPhAoMo.com> wrote in message
news:104hg2lbuu8tm72@corp.supernews.com...
> In ba.general Tim May <timcmay@removethis.got.net> wrote:
>
> > A guy doing some tree work for me told me about an incident he observed
> > today (Tues., 2 March), around noon, in front of the K-Mart on 41st
> > Ave. in Capitola, CA. (A town a few miles from Santa Cruz, for those
> > outside this area.)
>
> > This K-Mart parking lot is one of the primary "Illegal alien worker
> > pick-up zones," where home owners and small businesses pick up day
> > laborers for off-the-books, under-the-table day labor. There are
> > several such pick-up zones in Santa Cruz County, with some of them
> > having 30-40 illegal aliens (or in PC speak: "undocumented workers")
> > milling around.
>
> > Anyway, my tree trimmer saw an elderly woman in a green Toyota sedan
> > pull up to where some of the Mexicans were milling around. As he
> > described it, the car was immediately surrounded by about 20-30 men.
>
> > She either couldn't reach a deal, or she got flustered by the huge
> > crowd, or something, as she started to pull away. Her car was blocked
> > by several Mexicans and then dozens of them proceeded to _lift up_ her
> > car from all sides.
>
> > (Both my tree guy and I said to each other that had this happened,
> > we'd've gunned our engines and--hopefully, when one of the drive wheels
> > touched down again--killed a few of these wetbacks. Citing fear of
> > imminent death as our defense in court. "Better to be tried by twelve
> > citizens than carried by six or carried by 20 Mexicans.")
>
> > He said the Mexicans let the car down and the flustered (in his
> > opinion) old lady drove away. He told me he considered crossing the
> > street to chase the Mexicans away, but it all happened and was over
> > fairly quickly  (and of course, without some serious firepower,
> > fighting off 20 Mexican illegals is dangerous...the Korean shop owners
> > found that only shotguns and AR-15s from rooftops worked against the
> > negroes and Mexicans).
>
> If only those Mexicans had owned their own guns -- they wouldn't have had
> to strain themselves trying to pick up the car!
>
> Free guns for undocumented workers!

    Make that free bullets at a substantial muzzle velocity for illegal
aliens.
Re: Mexicans attack woman in car at K-Mart on 41st Ave., Capitola
#218
Author: Georgie_Porgie
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 03:09
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Tim May <timcmay@removethis.got.net> wrote in message news:<020320042314505899%timcmay@removethis.got.net>...
> A guy doing some tree work for me told me about an incident he observed
> today (Tues., 2 March), around noon, in front of the K-Mart on 41st
> Ave. in Capitola, CA. (A town a few miles from Santa Cruz, for those
> outside this area.)
> 
> This K-Mart parking lot is one of the primary "Illegal alien worker
> pick-up zones," where home owners and small businesses pick up day
> laborers for off-the-books, under-the-table day labor. There are
> several such pick-up zones in Santa Cruz County, with some of them
> having 30-40 illegal aliens (or in PC speak: "undocumented workers")
> milling around.
> 
> Anyway, my tree trimmer saw an elderly woman in a green Toyota sedan
> pull up to where some of the Mexicans were milling around. As he
> described it, the car was immediately surrounded by about 20-30 men. 
> 
> She either couldn't reach a deal, or she got flustered by the huge
> crowd, or something, as she started to pull away. Her car was blocked
> by several Mexicans and then dozens of them proceeded to _lift up_ her
> car from all sides.
> 
> (Both my tree guy and I said to each other that had this happened,
> we'd've gunned our engines and--hopefully, when one of the drive wheels
> touched down again--killed a few of these wetbacks. Citing fear of
> imminent death as our defense in court. "Better to be tried by twelve
> citizens than carried by six or carried by 20 Mexicans.")
> 
> He said the Mexicans let the car down and the flustered (in his
> opinion) old lady drove away. He told me he considered crossing the
> street to chase the Mexicans away, but it all happened and was over
> fairly quickly  (and of course, without some serious firepower,
> fighting off 20 Mexican illegals is dangerous...the Korean shop owners
> found that only shotguns and AR-15s from rooftops worked against the
> negroes and Mexicans).
> 
> We both plan to look for a report on this incident in tomorrow's "Santa
> Cruz Sentinel" (online summarized version at :
> <http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/>  )
> 
> A general comment: These parking lots are filled with roving bands of
> Mexicans. Up until about 5-7 years ago, roughly, the white buses used
> by INS were seen fairly regularly, with INS raiding places where
> illegal aliens were found. No more. My neighbor called about some
> illegals working for one of his competitors, and was told by the San
> Francisco office (50 miles away) that the offices were being moved back
> to Washington, D.C. There have not been raids for illegal aliens in
> several years here in Santa Cruz (or San Jose, as near as I can find
> out). Beach Flats, Pajaro, Watsonville, and several other nearby areas
> are teeming with illegals. And yet INS does nothing.
> 
> And some fraction of those illegals are the desperate men wandering
> around in the K-Mart and San Lorenzo Lumber parking lots, picking up
> the cars of little old ladies. And cops and sheriffs are nowhere to be
> seen.
> 
> It's why people should carry guns within easy reach, the law be damned.
> The "law" would just as soon look the other way as Mexican illegals do
> their thing, but is worried that an NRA member will dare to have his
> Second Amendment-guaranteed firearm rights.
> 
> What a disgusting nation this has turned into.
> 
> 
> --Tim May

I think that this lil' ol' lady probably just drove into the Safeway
Parking Lot to give these "jornaleros" a piece of her mind.  It just
might have ended up being her "last Anglo gasp."  I am reminded of
another old gray mare, Fern Peak, who almost lost it up in Humboldt
County some years ago when her only son's only daughter married a
glorified wetback from Lost Angeleez.  She was by birth a white
southern gentlewoman, raised within a social tradition that has long
since fallen to the wayside.  To add insult to injury, her son, James
Peak, had become an unemployed (and unemployable) elementary school
principal who was caught comingling school assets with his own bank
account... not to mention the usual Peed-Oh-Filia" charges that go
with the turf.  He was reduced to living off his mother, stealing her
blind after attaining power of attorney.  Her hated his mother so much
that he encouraged his daughter to hook up with L.A. Jose and further
aggravated her mental condition by hiring a Jehovah's Witness (herself
married to a deadbeat "knee-grow") to act as her caretaker.  Needless
to say, she croaked shortly thereafter.  But there wasn't much left to
steal by then.  Seems ol' Jimmy had already pretty well wiped out -the
family fortune.   Say, isn't this how the Irish succeeded???
------------------------

"Life is a B*tch, and then you die."

  ~Stoic Joe, Streetcorner Philosopher
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