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www.scruz.net has this on their web page:

Prices:

Non-Centrex ISDN Service

Includes line and equipment at our hub 

      1B (56/64k) full-time ISDN service            $350 setup
                                                    $225/month

      2B (112/128k) full-time ISDN service          $570 setup
                                                    $310/month

CENTREX ISDN Service

Includes lines at both ends, equipment at our hub 

      1B (64k) full-time ISDN CENTREX service       $420 setup
                                                    $255/month

      2B (128k) full-time ISDN CENTREX service      $60 setup
                                                    $340/month



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hrtmath@netcom.com (Tom Beckman) wrote:
>I've been looking for an Internet provider that offers an ISDN Internet
>POP in Boulder Creek, and thought other folks would be interested what in
>I found yesterday. Brainstorm Networks offers a 128K dedicated port for
>$310.00 per month or $410 a month for a dual channel link. With Centrex
>ISDN there's no per minute charge. Part time connections are available for
>two cents per minute. Their Web page is at www.brainstorm.net and their
>phone is 415-988-2900 or 408-338-2230.
>
>Anybody know about other possibilities?
>
>Tom Beckman
>hrtmath@netcom.com
>http://www.webcom.com/hrtmath - Institute of HeartMath
>
>-- 
>Tom Beckman             P.O. Box 1463            408-338-8700
>Institute of HeartMath  Boulder Creek, CA 95006  408-338-9861 fax
>A Nonprofit Corp.  hrtmath@netcom.com  http://www.webcom.com/~hrtmath

Thanks for the info, Tom.

I'm currently trying to get GTE to provide ISDN service to my house on Bear
Creek Road (midway between BC and the 17 interchange). After several weeks
of badgering them, they claim that they don't want to do it because I'm too far
from the switch and some new equipment is needed somewhere along the line.

Is anyone else in the same position? I guess the effective `blackout' zone is
west from Skyline to just past my house (I'm Los Gatos exchange). I think the
Summit road folks have an ISDN option....
Perhaps if a number of us similarly-effected folks got together, GTE might be
more interested....

Tony Cox, Stanford.

In <4fb961$kd8@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Tony Cox
<tcox@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu> writes: 
>
>hrtmath@netcom.com (Tom Beckman) wrote:
>>I've been looking for an Internet provider that offers an ISDN
Internet
>>POP in Boulder Creek, and thought other folks would be interested
what in
>>I found yesterday. Brainstorm Networks offers a 128K dedicated port
for
>>$310.00 per month or $410 a month for a dual channel link. With
Centrex
>>ISDN there's no per minute charge. Part time connections are
available for
>>two cents per minute. Their Web page is at www.brainstorm.net and
their
>>phone is 415-988-2900 or 408-338-2230.
>>
>>Anybody know about other possibilities?
>>
>>Tom Beckman
>>hrtmath@netcom.com
>>http://www.webcom.com/hrtmath - Institute of HeartMath
>>
>>-- 
>>Tom Beckman             P.O. Box 1463            408-338-8700
>>Institute of HeartMath  Boulder Creek, CA 95006  408-338-9861 fax
>>A Nonprofit Corp.  hrtmath@netcom.com  http://www.webcom.com/~hrtmath
>
>Thanks for the info, Tom.
>
>I'm currently trying to get GTE to provide ISDN service to my house on
Bear
>Creek Road (midway between BC and the 17 interchange). After several
weeks
>of badgering them, they claim that they don't want to do it because
I'm too far
>from the switch and some new equipment is needed somewhere along the
line.
>
>Is anyone else in the same position? I guess the effective `blackout'
zone is
>west from Skyline to just past my house (I'm Los Gatos exchange). I
think the
>Summit road folks have an ISDN option....
>Perhaps if a number of us similarly-effected folks got together, GTE
might be
>more interested....
>
>Tony Cox, Stanford.
>


Yesterday GTE just signed a multi-year contract agreement with the 4th
largest telecommunications company, LDDS WORLDCOM (Wiltel) for long
distance. This company owns and manages their own network. I would call
GTE to see if there will be any changes soon because of this
announcement. 

Tony Cox <tcox@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu> writes:

-I'm currently trying to get GTE to provide ISDN service to my house on Bear
-Creek Road (midway between BC and the 17 interchange). After several weeks
-of badgering them, they claim that they don't want to do it because I'm too far
-from the switch and some new equipment is needed somewhere along the line.

-Is anyone else in the same position? I guess the effective `blackout' zone is
-west from Skyline to just past my house (I'm Los Gatos exchange). I think the
-Summit road folks have an ISDN option....
-Perhaps if a number of us similarly-effected folks got together, GTE might be
-more interested....

-Tony Cox, Stanford.


	With all the new deregulation, you can get companies to provide
"local service" other than the one who owns your wire. I wonder how this will
affect ISDN. Pac Bell has offered "ISDN Anywhere" in their service area, and
when I had my second conventional line installed, they said they can just
upgrade that line to ISDN when I'm ready. They just change the type of signals
on their end, but don't have to lay any new wiring. 

	If that's the case, then:
	A) the wire you have is probably ISDN-capable
	B) someone other than GTE may be able to provide service to you

	You might want to do some homework and call around. I'm sure it won't
make GTE too happy if all their customers start switching to PacBell or some
such. They'll start earning about $4/month for line charges, and nothing more.
That should get them to change their tune.

	Ahhhh...free market competition.... :)

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In article <salsburyDMMIBC.DqL@netcom.com> salsbury@netcom.com (The Butterfly) writes:
>	With all the new deregulation, you can get companies to provide
>"local service" other than the one who owns your wire. I wonder how this will
>affect ISDN. Pac Bell has offered "ISDN Anywhere" in their service area, and
>when I had my second conventional line installed, they said they can just
>upgrade that line to ISDN when I'm ready. They just change the type of signals
>on their end, but don't have to lay any new wiring. 
>
>	If that's the case, then:
>	A) the wire you have is probably ISDN-capable
>	B) someone other than GTE may be able to provide service to you

ISDN has a line length limit of around 18000 feet.  To go further requires
the use of a midspan repeater.  (I don't know if it possible to beyond
36000 feet.  Nobody on the ISDN newsgroup has mentioned that.  Getting a
single repeater installed seems to be a big enough problem.)

Thus, if GTE won't install the repeater, you're out of luck.  No other
company is going to install a complex piece of equipment in a line that
they are leasing from GTE.

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