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Started by Gleeful *Stargis
Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:04
Fresh from Iraq, Sen. Lieberman Praises Strategy "I saw real progress there."
Author: Gleeful *Stargis
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:04
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:04
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I suppose this is a another "liar". Gores running mate in his own words......... http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/connecticut/ny-bc-ct--lieberman-iraq112 8nov28,0,382996.story?coll=ny-region-apconnecticut "Lieberman has visited Iraq four times in 17 months. He said there are signs life is returning to normal, including a profusion of cell phones and satellite TV dishes on rooftops. "About two-thirds of the country is in really pretty good shape," he said, noting most attacks are in the so-called "Sunni Triangle" region. "Overall, I came back encouraged." Lieberman said he hopes President Bush's speech Wednesday night will give a clearer picture to the American public of the progress being made in the war. "It's time for some details," said Lieberman. "He's gotta describe some of the progress that I saw there. It's gotta be realistic." U.S. military officials told him they hope that by next year, two-thirds of Iraq's military will be able to carry the fight to insurgents with limited logistical support from U.S. forces. Lieberman said U.S. commanders had learned from their early mistakes and were successfully pursuing a "clear-hold-build" strategy against rebel forces. He cautioned, however, that "prematurely" pulling out U.S. forces would jeopardize the progress made thus far."
Re: Fresh from Iraq, Sen. Lieberman Praises Strategy "I saw real progress there."
Author: greathornedlizard
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:27
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:27
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He's a lying sack of shit. He's an Israeli first and foremost. If he were a Democrat of substance he would have driven a Mack truck down Big Time Dick Cheney's throat when he said "I never made a dime off the government" in response to Lieberman's comment in the debates that he Cheney, had made a lot of money at Haliburton. As far as I can tell, Haliburton and "Dick" Cheney never made a dime that wasn't off the government.
Re: Fresh from Iraq, Sen. Lieberman Praises Strategy "I saw real progress there."
Author: Gleeful *Stargis
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:12
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:12
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In article <1133296026.846434.142030@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, greathornedlizard@yahoo.com says... > >He's a lying sack of shit. >He's an Israeli first and foremost. >If he were a Democrat of substance he would have driven a Mack truck >down Big Time Dick Cheney's >throat when he said "I never made a dime off the government" in >response to Lieberman's comment in the debates that he Cheney, had made >a lot of money at Haliburton. >As far as I can tell, Haliburton and "Dick" Cheney never made a dime >that wasn't off the government. > Gee what a shocker. Oh wow this is news. You call him a liar just as I predicted. And offer ZERO evidence to prove your claim. Hey, Al Gore had such high regard for Joe he selected him as his VP. Were you calling him a liar then? Nevermind he has been to Iraq 17 times checking on the progress! Getting direct reports in person from the military actually there doing the actual job. Dude, your on the wrong side of history. Were you pulling for the Soviets during the cold war too?
Re: Fresh from Iraq, Sen. Lieberman Praises Strategy "I saw real progress there."
Author: greathornedlizard
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:55
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:55
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The cold war was more of your bullshit, and, I might add, the world was a much safer place with two superpowers to keep each other in check. Lieberman's been to Iraq 17 times to check on Israel's proxy war. by the way Lieberman means lying sack of shit in German, sorry, I thought you knew.. As for the Al Gore part, please don't use that little "what about this, what about that" shit with me. I guess it worked okay at the RNC wannabe's debate club, but in the real world we learn,(those of us who aren't drinking the kool aid) that people can be mistaken, and that people can even change their minds. It's only Bush and his cult who never change their mind, who never admit they're wrong, who think things are all black and white. Just look in the mirror, Stargis, and say; "Gleeful, give it up, you're wrong about Bush, you're wrong about Iraq, you're wrong about Arnold, you're wrong about politics; give it up!" That's the first step towards wellness and sanity...
Re: Fresh from Iraq, Sen. Lieberman Praises Strategy "I saw real progress there."
Author: Gleeful *Stargis
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:19
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:19
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In article <1133304908.908741.149460@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, greathornedlizard@yahoo.com says... > but in the >real world we learn,(those of us >who aren't drinking the kool aid) that people can be mistaken, and that >people can even change their minds. > And that is why the voice of reason keeps trying. Your correct, tis not the Kool aid you drink. Tis the blue pill you choose to take over and over again..... http://www.arrod.co.uk/essays/matrix.php
Re: Fresh from Iraq, Sen. Lieberman Praises Strategy "I saw real progress there."
Author: greathornedlizard
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 02:41
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 02:41
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Gleeful *Stargis wrote: > In article <1133304908.908741.149460@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > greathornedlizard@yahoo.com says... > > > but in the > >real world we learn,(those of us > >who aren't drinking the kool aid) that people can be mistaken, and that > >people can even change their minds. > > > > > And that is why the voice of reason keeps trying. > > Your correct, tis not the Kool aid you drink. > > Tis the blue pill you choose to take over and over again..... > > http://www.arrod.co.uk/essays/matrix.php ================================================================== I have no choice, when I look at those who take the red pill...
Re: Fresh from Iraq, Sen. Lieberman Praises Strategy "I saw real progress there."
Author: greathornedlizard
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 03:40
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 03:40
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www.atrios.blogspot Feel the Joementum! Time magazine Baghdad bureau chief Michael Ware on Morning Sedition this morning: I and some other journalists had lunch with Senator Joe Lieberman the other day and we listened to him talking about Iraq. Either Senator Lieberman is so divorced from reality that he's completely lost the plot or he knows he's spinning a line. Because one of my colleagues turned to me in the middle of this lunch and said he's not talking about any country I've ever been to and yet he was talking about Iraq, the very country where we were sitting.
Re: Fresh from Iraq, Sen. Lieberman Praises Strategy "I saw real progress there."
Author: Gleeful *Stargis
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 04:29
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 04:29
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On 29 Nov 2005 18:41:14 -0800, greathornedlizard@yahoo.com wrote: > >Gleeful *Stargis wrote: >> In article <1133304908.908741.149460@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, >> greathornedlizard@yahoo.com says... >> >> > but in the >> >real world we learn,(those of us >> >who aren't drinking the kool aid) that people can be mistaken, and that >> >people can even change their minds. >> > >> >> >> And that is why the voice of reason keeps trying. >> >> Your correct, tis not the Kool aid you drink. >> >> Tis the blue pill you choose to take over and over again..... >> >> http://www.arrod.co.uk/essays/matrix.php > >================================================================== >I have no choice, when I look at those who take the red pill... 9-11 was the red pill for many. Most fighting this war never needed to make the choice. They already knew what had to be done.
Re: Fresh from Iraq, Sen. Lieberman Praises Strategy "I saw real progress there."
Author: greathornedlizard
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 21:09
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 21:09
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Gleeful *Stargis wrote: > On 29 Nov 2005 18:41:14 -0800, greathornedlizard@yahoo.com wrote: > > > > >Gleeful *Stargis wrote: > >> In article <1133304908.908741.149460@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > >> greathornedlizard@yahoo.com says... > >> > >> > but in the > >> >real world we learn,(those of us > >> >who aren't drinking the kool aid) that people can be mistaken, and that > >> >people can even change their minds. > >> > > >> > >> > >> And that is why the voice of reason keeps trying. > >> > >> Your correct, tis not the Kool aid you drink. > >> > >> Tis the blue pill you choose to take over and over again..... > >> > >> http://www.arrod.co.uk/essays/matrix.php > > > >================================================================== > >I have no choice, when I look at those who take the red pill... > > > 9-11 was the red pill for many. > > Most fighting this war never needed to make the choice. > > They already knew what had to be done. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++== So we're back to that red herring?
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