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In article <1992Apr04.190406.5825@Celestial.COM>, bill@Celestial.COM (Bill Campbell) writes:
> In <1992Apr03.192215.26557@stephsf.com> wengland@stephsf.com (Bill England) writes:
> 
> ...Stats deleted....
> >  The total modem transfer time for this data would be about
> >  5 hours for a cost of $71. (Including long distance telephone 
> >  and uunet access charges.)
> 
> >  I don't know if censored is the correct word here.  These
> >  groups are not here because of questionable usefulness and
> >  high expense.
> > 
> If they're ``not here because of questionable usefulness and
> high expense''  then why are they not here :-).
> 
> Syntax aside, I agree with Bill entirely.  The pictures binaries
> are 1/3 the total usenet traffic through uunet (if I remember the
> statistics correctly).  This means that a site that doesn't now
> carry these news groups would require 50% more space on the disk
> to add them and increase their modem time by 50%.  This is a very
> real cost which many (most?) sites cannot justify.

     I have yet to see a News implementation that doesn't allow you to set
different expiration periods for different news groups.  If you are running
C-news you can even set it to a fractional portion of a day.  You only need
to retain material long enough to batch in order to pass it on.

     I know for a fact that there are several sites in Seattle that get their
feeds over dedicated IP links.  That being the case, they aren't paying time
charges to receive them.  I know further that they used to pass this material
on regardless of how long they kept it locally.  But after Sumax's decision
to censor it, they did likewise.

     I am still looking for an uncensored feed of alt.binaries, and if I am
successful at obtaining one, I will pass it on to anyone else interested.
On another note, if anyone else is looking for things I do get, I'm willing
to pass it on within the bounds of free capacity, and there are a lot of
variables there, ie, do you have v.32/v.32bis, is your modem available
24 hours so it doesn't have to sit for long periods of time in my spool
directory, etc.