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del@fnx.uucp (Dag Erik Lindberg) writes:
: In <1992Sep14.004105.29786@ssc.wa.com> markz@ssc.wa.com (Mark Zenier) writes:
: 
: >We (news adminstrators) VOTE with "our" systems active and sys files.
: >If a newsgroup is worthwhile, It gets added locally, and if
: >it's really worthless, can be obliviated and/or not forwarded.
: 
: >That veto power makes a poll a courtesy, but nothing more.
: 
: No, I have to disagree with you.  Discussion and polls in new group
: creation are critical in maintaining some semblance of order outside
: of the alt hierarchy.  Since there is no central authority in Usenet,
: the only tool we have to maintain this order is peer pressure.

As I see it, it's a disagreement between two philosphies of news
administrations, "descriptive", ie. "this is what happens" and
"prescriptive", ie. "this is how it should be".  Along with this
is inclusive/exclusive creation.  Should a group that has
a reasonable number of readers and managable volume exist, even if
its pedigree is a bit suspect?

[ Get an all/all feed from eskimo and see how much stuff exists that
isn't offically sanctioned.  ;-) ]

For creating (what should be) a local group, I think setting up some 
sort of rigid rule base, like in the big 7 hierarchies is just getting 
your knickers in a twist.   A consensus by the readership of seattle.admin  
isn't going to be drastically different the the results of a vote.

The volume of traffic doesn't seem to justify the effort.

Even voting by rmgroup (among the limited number of systems
in western Washington) wouldn't be fatal ;-) .

: I personally think Kimbro.com is way out of line.  

From my point of view, Kimbro.com wasn't the creator.  Judging from
this system's junk directory, seattle.forsale has existed for weeks or
months.   I assume a result of the last time a more rational seattle.* 
organization was discussed.

: I resent having the seattle.forsale newsgroup created, as there 
: is now another newsgroup I have to scan.  

Only if you want to buy something.  I'll be glad not to see that
traffic. 

Mark Zenier  markz@ssc.wa.com