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Started by Michael Goldman
Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:27
US as Number 1 (relative ranking books)
Author: Michael Goldman
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:27
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:27
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A lot of discussion on the net is of the nature of which country is better or worse in some regard. These discussions usually suffer from lack of data comparing different countries. (Eg., the US murder rate is high, but how is it compared to other countries?) I would like to mention three recent books that compare the US and many other countries in such things as infant mortality, murder rates, rate of growth of exports, etc. "We're Number One" by Andrew L. Shapiro, 1992 $10, Vintage books. This collects a lot of data from such organizations as the UN, the OECD, the World Bank, etc., and presents them with a page or so of text per table. He covers a broad range such as health, crime, living standaards, attitudes, etc. so you get breadth rather than depth. The data is usually presented in units 'per capita', or as a %-age of GDP so that the comparisons are meaningful. There were a lot of surprises for me. E.g., the US murder rate is 9.4/100,000, with the next highest being Sweden with 7.2/100,000. (From another data source I know that the US rate for blacks is 66/100,000 and for whites it is 8+/100,000.) The surprise for me is not that the US has the highest rate but that it isn't as much higher as I thought. Another surprise to me was how poor the US is in recycling - 29% of glass, 12% of paper, compared to the best country (the Netherlands) at 53% and 62%, respectively. In attitudes, the supposedly multi-ethnic US comes in 11th in a tolerance survey with 59% saying they are comfortable people of other values, etc. vs. 85% for the Danes, and 13% for the Japanese. A lot of caveats will suggest themselves, as statistics always do, but this is a good starting point for a lot of discussion, and the text is fairly intelligent. Since Mr. Shapiro cites all his references, this would also be a good starting point to find out where more detailed analyses can be found. "Where We Stand" Bantam Books, $24, Wolff, Rutten, Bayers, et al. Similar to the above, but with different sets of data. One surprise: The US has one of the smallest middle classes of the major countries. In the US, 53.7% have incomes between 0.67 and 1.5 times the national median, compared to Japan with 90%, Sweden with 79%, Germany with 70.1%, and 6 other countries with higher numbers. Another surprise: the US is 12th in households owning their own home at 59% - just below Japan at 60% (the run up in housing prices there is recent.) In fact, some of the richest countries, like Germany and Switzerland have some of the lowest rates of home ownership. "The Economist Book of Vital Statistics" (New York: Times Books) is another good one, cited in the Shapiro book. Actually, I've never seen actual data convince anyone on the net of anything. There seems to be something that prohibits people from writing "Oh, I didn't know that - so you were right and I was wrong - thanks for the info." It would be nice to see more of that, though the shock would probably kill half the long time netters. - Michael -- "History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives." - Abba Eban Disclaimer: All views are solely my own & not the views of Acuson. <sun!sono!miklg> or [miklg@acuson.com]
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