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Is courage finite?
#102
Author: Dropkick Punt
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:41
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I remember hearing something about this on a radio story. I can't remember
the precise science behind it, but the practical upshot was that "courage
is a finite resource".

Basically, so it goes, for an average person your nervous system will only
allow you to go through so many hair-raising, life threatening
experiences. After a certain number of them you develop the shakes at the
prospect of being forced to put your life on the line, beyond that you
risk going insane.

Is this true? If so, anyone know any keywords I can use to find out about
the science of this?
Re: Is courage finite?
#103
Author: Don Phillipson
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:50
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"Dropkick Punt" <notrealaddress@all.com> wrote in message
news:dqc5mp$dus$1@news-02.connect.com.au...

> I remember hearing something about this on a radio story. I can't remember
> the precise science behind it, but the practical upshot was that "courage
> is a finite resource".
>
> Basically, so it goes, for an average person your nervous system will only
> allow you to go through so many hair-raising, life threatening
> experiences. After a certain number of them you develop the shakes at the
> prospect of being forced to put your life on the line, beyond that you
> risk going insane.

This is not a new idea.   Psychologists approx. 1900
(including Freud) thought that every person had a finite
quantity of "life energy," i.e. what he spent on art or
inventing or chasing girls would be unavailable for
building a family, running for electoral office, stock
market speculation etc.

-- 
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
Re: Is courage finite?
#100
Author: David Moss
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:51
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In article <dqc5mp$dus$1@news-02.connect.com.au>, notrealaddress@all.com 
writes...

> I remember hearing something about this on a radio story. I can't remember
> the precise science behind it, but the practical upshot was that "courage
> is a finite resource".
> 
> Basically, so it goes, for an average person your nervous system will only
> allow you to go through so many hair-raising, life threatening
> experiences. After a certain number of them you develop the shakes at the
> prospect of being forced to put your life on the line, beyond that you
> risk going insane.
> 
> Is this true? If so, anyone know any keywords I can use to find out about
> the science of this?

Hmm. Doubt its true.
Humans have a surprising capacity to adapt. What scares the shit out of 
a bloke one day will hardly raise his pulse after it has happened more 
than a few times. Of course when something does goes wrong it can often 
go wrong in a big way. And permanently. I don't think the number of 
incidents has anything to do with it though. Some people get PTSD after 
a single incident, others after hundreds or even thousands.

In case anyone jumps to the conclusion I believe people with PTSD are 
lacking in courage, the opposite is true. Its a medical condition that 
can make a person hypersensitive to percieved danger.

"Psychophysiological alterations associated with PTSD include hyper-
arousal of the sympathetic nervous system, increased sensitivity of the 
startle reflex, and sleep abnormalities."
( http://www.ncptsd.va.gov/facts/general/fs_what_is_ptsd.html )

Anyone who goes through life with PTSD has more courage than usual, not 
less.

But it may stop them functioning at all, never mind do what society 
might call brave deeds.


-- 
DM
personal opinion only
Re: Is courage finite?
#101
Author: David Moss
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:53
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In article <dqc5mp$dus$1@news-02.connect.com.au>, notrealaddress@all.com 
writes...

> I remember hearing something about this on a radio story. I can't remember
> the precise science behind it, but the practical upshot was that "courage
> is a finite resource".
> 
> Basically, so it goes, for an average person your nervous system will only
> allow you to go through so many hair-raising, life threatening
> experiences. After a certain number of them you develop the shakes at the
> prospect of being forced to put your life on the line, beyond that you
> risk going insane.
> 
> Is this true? If so, anyone know any keywords I can use to find out about
> the science of this?

Hmm. Doubt its true.
Humans have a surprising capacity to adapt. What scares the shit out of 
a bloke one day will hardly raise his pulse after it has happened more 
than a few times. Of course when something does goes wrong it can often 
go wrong in a big way. And permanently. I don't think the number of 
incidents has anything to do with it though. Some people get PTSD after 
a single incident, others after hundreds or even thousands.

In case anyone jumps to the conclusion I believe people with PTSD are 
lacking in courage, the opposite is true. Its a medical condition that 
can make a person hypersensitive to perceived danger.

"Psychophysiological alterations associated with PTSD include hyper-
arousal of the sympathetic nervous system, increased sensitivity of the 
startle reflex, and sleep abnormalities."
( http://www.ncptsd.va.gov/facts/general/fs_what_is_ptsd.html )

Anyone who goes through life with PTSD has more courage than usual, not 
less.

But it may stop them functioning at all, never mind do what society 
might call brave deeds.


-- 
DM
personal opinion only
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