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5 total messages Started by Sebastien Racine *Rocker* Sat, 03 Oct 1992 02:01
Greek justice towards a Jehovah Witness.
#1
Author: Sebastien Racine *Rocker*
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1992 02:01
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     Hi,

     I heard that public advocation of religions in 
     Greece was strictly prohibited according to a 
     law (1939). Greek Orthodox church is allowed to 
     make propoganda of any kind, on the other hand 
     any public activity of other religious branches 
     is strictly prohibited. Yesterday I have learned 
     that a friend of mine working for our organization 
     in Greece was prosecuted because of his religious 
     beliefs. We, Jehovahs' Witnesses strongly protest this 
     behaviour of the Greek government. While allowing TV 
     programs and prayers for orthodox church but 
     prohibiting other religious TV programs, talking 
     about democracy is useless.

     We strongly protest such a law in an EC country 
     which must be assumed to be democratic. 
     Why was Greece accepted to the EC, anyway?

     My best regards,
     ---
     SR
Re: Greek justice towards a Jehovah Witness.
#2
Author: 8800529
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1992 13:30
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In article <9210030201.AA26092@cc.UMontreal.CA> sebr@iro.umontreal.CA (Sebastien Racine *Rocker*) writes:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     I heard that public advocation of religions in 

	You heard wrong.

>     Greece was strictly prohibited according to a 
>     law (1939). Greek Orthodox church is allowed to 
>     make propoganda of any kind, on the other hand 
>     any public activity of other religious branches 
>     is strictly prohibited. Yesterday I have learned 
>     that a friend of mine working for our organization 
>     in Greece was prosecuted because of his religious 
>     beliefs. We, Jehovahs' Witnesses strongly protest this 
>     behaviour of the Greek government. While allowing TV 
>     programs and prayers for orthodox church but 
>     prohibiting other religious TV programs, talking 
>     about democracy is useless.
>
>     We strongly protest such a law in an EC country 
>     which must be assumed to be democratic. 
>     Why was Greece accepted to the EC, anyway?
>
	Because Greece has one of the best records on human writes
and respect to peoples relegons in the world. Many international
sorces prove so. Well there is your friend ...


>     My best regards,
>     ---
>     SR
>

	George
Re: Greek justice towards a Jehovah Witness.
#3
Author: Panayotis Fouliras
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1992 16:17
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In <9210030201.AA26092@cc.UMontreal.CA> sebr@iro.umontreal.CA (Sebastien Racine *Rocker*) writes:

>     Hi,

>     I heard that public advocation of religions in
>     Greece was strictly prohibited according to a
>     law (1939). Greek Orthodox church is allowed to
>     make propoganda of any kind, on the other hand
>     any public activity of other religious branches
>     is strictly prohibited. Yesterday I have learned

Rubbish... The Greek Orthodox Church is the official church
(like the Church of England in England, etc), with >95% of the
population Orthodox. However, no prosyletizing (=brain washing)
is allowed by *anyone*. For more, watch the latest video of the
group "Genesis" (song: "Jesus, he knows me"), or call (USA)
1-800-GEN-ESIS for more information.

>     that a friend of mine working for our organization
>     in Greece was prosecuted because of his religious
>     beliefs. We, Jehovahs' Witnesses strongly protest this

Rubbish again. You can beleive in whatever (even in nothing and
be an atheist).

>     behaviour of the Greek government. While allowing TV
>     programs and prayers for orthodox church but
>     prohibiting other religious TV programs, talking
>     about democracy is useless.

Not true. The Greek Orthodox Church (and not the
religion/dogma) represents an istitution as far as the Law
is concerned. In practice, it is a part of the Greek identity
(the name speaks for itself) for ~2,000 years and this will not
change, just because some people (especially non-Greeks) want it
this way. On the other hand the real issue, behind all this is
the dodging of military service. Some people only remember
Democracy when it comes down to rights and not obligations.

>     We strongly protest such a law in an EC country
>     which must be assumed to be democratic.
>     Why was Greece accepted to the EC, anyway?

Who is "We"? As to why Greece was accepted in the EEC, well,
read your second line.

>     My best regards,
>     ---
>     SR

With  all due respect

Panayotis
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Re: Greek justice towards a Jehovah Witness.
#4
Author: Jean-Francois Berne
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 18:12
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In article <9210030201.AA26092@cc.UMontreal.CA> sebr@iro.umontreal.CA (Sebastien Racine *Rocker*) writes:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     I heard that public advocation of religions in 
>     Greece was strictly prohibited according to a 
>     law (1939).
???
Stop smoking. And if you don't smoke you should start.

>     that a friend of mine working for our organization 
>     in Greece was prosecuted because of his religious 
>     beliefs. We, Jehovahs' Witnesses strongly protest this 
>     behaviour of the Greek government. While allowing TV 
>     programs and prayers for orthodox church but 
>     prohibiting other religious TV programs, talking 
>     about democracy is useless.
Bullshit. Greece is in the EC, THEREFORE it is a democratic
country respecting any belief.
Jehovahs' witness, eh? 
JF
ps: BTW, democracy is a word of greek origin, meaning
"leadership of the people", not "of the TV".
Re: Greek justice towards a Jehovah Witness.
#6
Author: Gregory Dandulakis
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 19:24
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In article <1992Oct3.161710.7501@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> pef@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Panayotis Fouliras) writes:


>   ... The Greek Orthodox Church is the official church


This was true up till 1974. Since then the Constitution recognizes NO
official religion, but it states clearly that the Orthodox Church is
the DOMINANT one (in numbers, among the population).

These are legal tricks, of course :-)


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