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Hey, Pat Robertson, after your so-called "Christian" Coalition/"Moral
Majority" cult collects BILLIONS of dollars of TAX-EXEMPT money to give to
your REPUBLICAN stooge politicans, are ya gonna pay for my retirement when
your  REPUBLICAN stooge politicans cut my Medicare and Social Security?

OK, Pat, well here's some modern-day tips and advice on trust and personal
security for you, courtesy of Ira Winkler�you're gonna need it when I get my
SHOTGUN. _ZDTV News: CyberCrime: Spy Files_. "L'Affaire Lewinsky Lessons:
Everything I need to know about information security I learned from Monica
Lewinsky." 1998 October 7.
<http://www.zdnet.com/zdtv/cybercrime/spyfiles/story/
0,3700,2144438,00.html>:

The President Clinton/Monica Lewinsky saga will continue to progress and
waste the country's time. There is nothing anyone can do to stop this, short
of giving the Democrats a majority in the House of Representatives come
November. The good side of this is that there are a lot of lessons to be
learned.

Disclaimer: Obviously there is some mature subject matter here. However, it
can't be any more objectionable than what Congress has deemed appropriate to
put on the Internet and sell at the Government Printing Office.

TIP #1: Only Congress should be allowed to put pornography on the Internet

What fascinated me most about Congress was that they expressed shock, horror,
and disgust over the content of the Starr Report. Then the first thing the
people who tried to outlaw pornography on the Internet decided to do was put
the report online. So I guess if pornography serves a political purpose, it's
OK.

TIP #2: Don't make private information public and then complain about it being
public

Paula Jones, whose sexual harassment claim started the Monica Lewinsky
scandal, supposedly claimed that besides the damage to her career that she
suffered, she suffered outrageous personal embarrassment because of Clinton's
clumsy proposition. The problem is that she only suffered this embarrassment
after she made the incident public.

TIP #3: Watch out who you take advice from

About a year ago, Paula Jones was offered all of the money that she asked
for. However she wanted to holdout for an apology. Her lawyers (who
recommended she settle) were fired, and her newest, bestest friend and
personal advisor-- who only became her friend after Jones charged Clinton--
told her to hold out for an apology through court action. The problem is that
courts only award people money and not apologies.

Monica Lewinsky is another person who chose her advisors poorly.

Linda Tripp was feeding her steady advice, and we all know where that got
Monica. By now, we all know that Linda Tripp told Lewinsky not to clean the
dress and to send it somewhere for safekeeping. Just in case that wasn't
enough to get the dress stored, Tripp told Monica that she looked fat in the
dress. Then Tripp was kind enough to tell Ken Starr and the grand jury about
the dress, and implicated Monica and her mother for a variety of criminal
charges. What a pal!

TIP #4: Expect Attacks From All Directions

When you claim to be a model of excellence, expect to be attacked. Linda
Tripp describes herself as a normal woman, who did what she thought any good
citizen should do. I just hope I don't meet any other good citizens. Even the
people who want to see Clinton punished as much as possible don't like
Tripp's behavior. I don't think anyone would share a secret with her again.
This paragon of virtue is now being investigated for a variety of state and
federal crimes, and I must admit that if anyone is jailed as a result of this
whole affair, I really hope it is her.

Also, some of those Congress people are not above some severe hypocrisy. One
in particular, who called Clinton a "scumbag" over Lewinsky, has recently
been exposed as having an affair. They will claim that Clinton lied, and they
didn't. Although you might assume that someone who is so harsh on the matter
is above reproach, it really seems to me that many politicians "doth protest
too much."

TIP #5: There is no such thing as a secret

This is probably the best lesson coming from Lewinsky. In the first place,
even if Clinton and Lewinsky never told anyone about their relationship,
people knew. The Secret Service agents and other people around the White
House knew about Lewinsky. Even if they didn't, Lewinsky was not exactly
quiet about the relationship herself. Even if this didn't happen, I think
many people thought that Clinton would have an affair anyway.

TIP #6: Expect your worst enemy to come after you

People expect attacks from hackers, their competitors, oreven industrial
spies. However, they often discount their worst enemies, for example,
disgruntled employees or pissed-off customers. Clinton should have been aware
anyone with ties to the tobacco industry (such as Ken Starr) might not be the
most unbiased "Independent" Counsel.

By the way, I think the greatest irony of this whole affair is Clinton's love
of cigars and the uses that he finds for them.I think Clinton has now done
more to promote tobacco than Starr has done.

TIP #7: Your adversaries want to give away as much information about you as
possible and won't be independent

The Starr Report was 445 pages long. I guess $100,000 per page was a magic
number. It went into great detail about each encounter between Clinton and
Lewinsky. Am I the only person who thinks that knowing when Lewinsky had her
period was going way beyond the scope of thereport?

I think the following quote would have covered all of the sexual details in a
way that implicates the President."Monica Lewinsky testified to performing
oral sex on President Clinton on the following days. Her details of the
events were corroborated by other facts brought into evidence. Clinton
touched Lewinsky in a way to cause arousal on several occasions." The only
problem is that when the report was distributed, it would have been too short
and would not have incited as much outrage.

Also Starr did not provide any objective viewpoints, even though he was
supposed to be the "Independent" Counsel. For example, when he said that
Clinton committed perjury in the Jones case, he forgot to mention that one of
the stipulations of perjury is that the "lie" told must be relevant to the
case. Since the judge of the Jones case ruled that even if all of Jones'
allegations were 100 percent true, she still could not have won her case.

Therefore assuming Clinton lied about everything, he would still not be guilty
of perjury. I'm pretty sure that "Judge" Starr, as his supporters call him,
should have thought that this little tidbit was relevant.

TIP #8: Never talk about anything sensitive over the telephone

Newt Gingrich learned this a few years ago. Clinton warned Lewinsky that his
calls may be tapped. Linda Tripp taped Monica Lewinsky on the telephone.
Never has a lack of communications security proved to be so important to the
President. So all of you sitting at home, just think about the possibility
that someone might belistening in on your call, or that you are talking to
another Linda Tripp.

TIP #9: Don't count on people in the same circumstances supporting you, and
always watch out for people thatprotest too much

I imagine that there might be many congresspeople who have had sex outside of
their marriages. Newt Gingrich was charged with and agreed to accept the House
findings of his ethics violations. Not only that, a telephone call of his was
taped where he was supposedly improperly negotiating with other congresspeople
as to what his punishment should be.

Congress is filled with people who have "sinned." You would think that these
people would show Clinton the same courtesy that they have been shown.
Obviously this is not the case. As a matter of fact, some of Clinton's most
vocal opponents have recently been shown to have engaged in extramarital
affairs. However, when they did it, it was not showing poor judgment, or at
least that's whatyou would think by their public statements.

TIPS ##10 + 11: The Accusation Is Everything
Never expect to be publicly cleared after being publicly accused.

Late on September 25, 1998, a congressional committee unanimously cleared
Clinton in any wrongdoing relating to the transfer of missile technology to
the Chinese in exchange for campaign contributions. This was clearly a much
more critical charge than any of the Lewinsky matters. Even Republican
senators and representatives stated that. However, how many people heard
about the committee's decision? Expect to be accused and never cleared.

TIP #12: During a sex scandal, Congress only has sex in the missionary
position for procreation

Whether they were Republican or Democrat, our representatives claimed to be
shocked by the explicit content of the report and the President's
behavior.Naturally, these comments made me and millions of other people want
to read the report even more. When I finally read the report, I had to reread
it, because I thought I missed something.

There were many references to the President receiving oral sex and a
reference to a relatively unique use of a cigar, but that was the worst of
the description of sex. Is oral sex troubling and disgusting in and of
itself? Many legitimate studies and psychology professionals prove that it is
atypical part of a healthy, committed, sexual relationship. I can only assume
that congresspeople only have sex for the purpose of procreation in the
missionary position. Or possibly, do they think that if they don't act
horrified, it will seem like they engage in and enjoy oral sex?

TIP #13: Never change your mind about long-standing decisions while engaging
in sexual activity

According to Monica, President Clinton didn't think that he was cheating or
doing anything wrong as long as the oral sex was not performed, "to
completion." Monica pleaded with Clinton to allow her "to perform to
completion." In the middle of receiving oral sex, he finally conceded. That
was the day the infamous dress "became stained." How many other people make
bad decisions or blurt out secrets in the middle of similar situations?

TIP #14: Pawns will always be sacrificed

Linda Tripp was a pawn for Ken Starr. Monica Lewinsky is everyone's pawn. All
of these people volunteered themselves to their respective mentors, because
they thought they could benefit in some way.

Ken Starr is now investigating Linda Tripp for possible violations, and to
also prove that he is unbiased. (Without Tripp, Starr would have had nothing
on Clinton.) Nobody is coming to Monica's side.

Again, all of these people thought they were helping someone by doing what
they did. Of course the people receiving their help were more than happy to
accept and exploit them. They also quickly turned on the pawns when it became
convenient.

The security lesson to be learned is that you have to watch out for both
types. Be wary of people who want to be pawns for a cause. They are insiders
who will turn against you. Also, if you are the pawn, consider your position
well, because you can, and will, be sold out in a heartbeat.

Some of this probably seems more like personal commentary than security
advice. A great deal of personal security, however, involves whom you trust.
It also involves the foresight to realize that at some point your past
actions may become a liability. Depending upon the situations that you
personally rise to, you may be subjected to someone as vindictive as Starr
and the Republicans.

I listen to people who say that since Clinton is no longer a role model, he
can no longer be President. However, we are now in an era where we are
allowing politicians and the media to go into people's personal lives.
Everyone looked up to President Kennedy, and he makes Clinton look like a
choirboy. Kennedy is just one example.

There are also Congressmen who say that it's not the "sexual" aspect of the
Lewinsky affair that matters, it is the fact that Clinton lied to the American
public. I don't know how they can say that with a straight face.

When did politicians get such a great reputation? Can you tell me one
politician that has ever come out and say, "I voted a particular way not
because it was best for my constituents, but because my campaign donors or my
party wanted me to."

We will see if one particular congressman keeps his word to the American
public. Congressman Henry Hyde, the Republican who chairs the House Judiciary
Committee, said in January concerning Clinton's possible impeachment, "I
can't stress this too much. It has to elicit bipartisan support. So nothing
much will happen until the Democrats decide something should happen." We will
see if Hyde keeps his word to the American public and only proceeds with
bipartisan support.

The current statistics indicate that well over 80 percent of the people who
want Clinton impeached or to resign didn't want him elected in the first
place. These people easily include the Republicans who control the House. Any
non-bipartisan impeachment inquiries are only an attempt at voter
nullification. If the public allows that to happen, it goes to prove the old
statement that "a Democracy is the only form of Government where everyone
gets what the majority deserves."

Whether or not you think Clinton deserves it, he has clearly had his
political enemies put out damaging information against him without having had
the chance to see the information. When else have you seen possible evidence
in a criminal case released to the Internet, prior to the defendant even
reviewing the evidence? When else has any evidence been put out on the
Internet in any other matter possibly criminal matter? Whether or not he
deserves it, it is not fair.

People do not deserve, nor can they expect, the rights of security and privacy
when they allow other people to have those rights taken away from them. Just
think, maybe someday your child might want to grow up to be President. Do you
want him or her treated the way Clinton has been treated by his opposition?

Cheers, Damien Falgoust

P.S. And don't 4get 2 visit these websites:

"THE PAT ROBERTSON PETTING ZOO"
<http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/4028/politics/zoo.html>.

"The Anti-Pat Robertson/Christian Coalition Site"
<http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/7027/patrobertson.html>


In article <703d20$net$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
  pat_robertson@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> Dear Fellow Christian Soldiers:
>
> As you know, the immoral and disgusting things at the White House are yet
> another sign that the Apocalypse is near us.
>
> It is distracting us from dealing with far more important issues, such as
> prayer in our public schools, teaching creationism in the biology class,
> bombing abortion clinics, ejecting gays from the military, and keeping women
> in the kitchen.
>
> But far more urgent matters are before us.
>
> That is why I am taking this time to ask each and every one of you to please
> register to vote and VOTE REPUBLICAN in the upcoming November elections,
> after, of course, you write your Congressman and Senator to IMPEACH CLINTON.
> The fate of our Christian Republic depends on each and every one of us good
> Christian soldiers obeying God's orders without fail, without question.
>
> More information is available at my "Christian Coalition/Moral
> Majority/Impeach Clinton/Vote Republican" website at
> <http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/7027/patrobertson.html>. It is very
> busy and popular at times (we are the Moral Majority after all), so I invite
> you to try the unbiased search engines at AltaVista
> <http://www.altavista.com> and InfoSeek <http://www.infoseek.com>, and simply
> type in keywords like: "Pat Robertson" "Christian Coalition" "Moral Majority"
> for further details.
>
> Please visit my site. Clinton's immorality and evil character for supporting
> education, the environment, tobacco taxes, health care, Medicare, Social
> Security, civil rights in America, peace in Northern Ireland and the Middle
> East, etc. must be stopped.
>
> Gob Bless America and Ken Starr.
>
> Rev. Pat Robertson
>
> Jews For Jesus, a wholly-owned subsidiary of my tax-exempt corporations The
> Christian Broadcasting Network and The Christian Coalition
> <http://www.cbn.org>
> <http://www.cc.org>
>
> P.S. I have enclosed and served upon you Mr. Starr's Subpoena Ad Testificandum
> et Duces Tecum.
> =======
> UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
> DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CIRCUIT
> _____________________________
> UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
>
> v.
>
> WE, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
>
> Defendants.
> _____________________________
>
> Criminal Action No. 98-0117
>
> SUBPOENA TO TESTIFY AND TO PRODUCE DOCUMENTS AND/OR OBJECTS
>
> To:     We, the American People
>
>   You, and each of you, are hereby commanded to appear in the United States
> District Court for the District of Columbia Circuit, in the city of
> Washington, District of Columbia, on the 3rd day of November, 1998, at 9:00
> A.M., to testify in the case of United States v. We, the American People,
> regarding, without limitation, any and all SEXUAL ACTIVITIES you may have
> engaged in and/or witnessed within the past three [3] years of the date
> herein, and to bring with you any and all BOOKS, MAGAZINE SUBSCRIPTIONS,
> NECKTIES, CIGARS, DILDOS, CREDIT CARD RECORDS, RESTAURANT BILLS, THEATRE
> TICKETS, HOTEL/MOTEL BILLS, CONTRACEPTIVES, MEDICAL RECORDS, VIDEOTAPES,
> AUDIOTAPES, COMPUTER STORAGE MEDIA, COURT PAPERS RELATING TO YOUR FAMILY'S
> AND FRIENDS' BIRTH, MARRIAGE, DIVORCE, ANNULMENT, DEATH, etc., purchased
> and/or received within the past three [3] years of the date herein.
>
>   Please take notice that failure to appear and/or answer personal, private
> sexual questions truthfully and completely, and/or produce personal papers
> and effects at such date, place, and time, are grounds for criminal
> prosecution for contempt, perjury, subornation of perjury, and/or obstruction
> of justice, notwithstanding that that 22-year-old ADULT WOMAN's CONSENSUAL
> oral sex with the President in Washington, D.C., in 1996-97, is neither
> relevant nor material to Paula Jones' alleged non-consensual sexual
> harassment in Arkansas seven [7] years ago. See, e.g., Fed.R.Evi. 401 and 18
> U.S.C. �� 1621-1623.
>
>   Please take further notice that it is not a defense that Kenneth W. Starr is
> the private attorney for BIG TOBACCO, whose agents, servants, and/or employees
> have for years committed perjury, subornation of perjury, and obstruction of
> justice, for testifying that "tobacco is not addictive."
>
>   Please take further notice that it is not a defense that Republicans Newt
> Gingrich, Henry Hyde, Dan 'scumbag' Burton, and Helen Chenoweth are all
> guilty of unethical and extramarital affairs as the same are neither relevant
> nor material to your personal, private, sexual affairs and/or your job
> performance.
>
>   This Subpoena is issued on application of the full force and power of the
> United States of America (including $44.4 MILLION of TAXPAYERS' hard-earned
> money), by Kenneth W. Starr, "Independent" Counsel.
>
> Dated:  September 22, 1998
>
> /s/ Nancy Mayer-Whittinaton
> Nancy Mayer-Whittinaton, Esq., Clerk of Court
> United States District Courthouse
> Third Street & Constitution Avenue N.W.
> Washington, D.C. 20001
> (202) 273-0555
>
> Ken Starr + Big Tobacco = Perjury + Subornation + Obstruction + Abuse
>
> alt.pIn article <xgRQ1.519$y34.1678359@twinkie.callamer.com>,
>   "Joe" <heidlers@slonet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Historically the Republicans have been opposed to Social Security as
> > implemented by F.D.R. and the Democrats during the great depression. The
> > Republicans continually throw out booby traps like "make it voluntary" or
> > "put part of your money in the stock market for retirement."
> >
> > Why any senior would buy the Republican diversion tactic so as to increase
> > the number of elected Republicans in Congress is beyond me. Don't let
> > Clinton's personal mistakes cause you to vote against your own best
> > interest. Clinton is insisting that more of the budget surplus be spent on
> > Social Security and Medicare, whereas the Republicans want to implement a
> > tax cut for the rich who don't need Social Security anyway. A tax cut for
> > most seniors on Social Security is meaningless because their income is below
> > the amount that is taxed after the standard deduction is applied.
> >
> >
>
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