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Article #2Re: Is this really the end of UK forestry?
From: Joseph Zorzin
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 00:00
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 00:00
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u04hjb@abdn.ac.uk wrote: > > After attendance to two Aberdeen University arranged lectures I have been lead > to the belief that the UK forestry industry is in it's worst period for some > time. It is becoming a school of thought amongst academics that the UK would > be better placed concentrating on the production of recreation rather than > timber forests. Does this mean that the British forester in ten years time > will have more in common with a theme park manager than a bloody tree > manager?? The UK has a large tourist industry, no? The forest may be worth more for it's recreation value than timber value. This is the same debate going on for many US national forests. > The recent collapse of Pacific Asian economies has had serious implications > for the exporters such as Canada, US and Finland. All of whom export to Japan, > who have taken advanage of the cheaper timber from the tiger economies > that is now available. This creates an export excess, which has to be found a > market. The most logical place is the UK due to our poor forest reserve in > comparison with the rest of Europe. This combined with the flooding of timber > from the Baltic states desperate for hard currency, is going to lead to a > substantial rise in supply and competition with all the price problems that > market saturation can cause. I would suspect that cheap timber from Asia and the Baltic would be far cheaper than timber grown in the UK; since there is so little of it. Turning yourselves into park managers might be a good idea. > Then you have to take into accont the current problems with prices for sawn > and pulp wood, to the extent that thinning has almost ground to a halt in an > attempt to halt expenses. (This has an implication as no thinning in > plantation woodlands makes your crop less economically and silviculturally > productive. Thus meaning that indigenously produced timber in 10-20years, the > supposed boom of UK timber from the 70's planting will become uncompetitive > and over priced, dendering itself open to the spectre of the cheaper large > exporting countries.) The other option will be to fell at a loss and give up > the land to other devt's. With the govt. announcement of the need for 4 > million homes, it easy to guess where land owners will target their land!! > Are there any answers?? > Please reply to Hayden Bennett > e-mail : u04hjb@abdn.ac.uk > Here in the northeast USA, anyways, we often have to thin young stands by a "precommercial method"; by just killing the "bad" trees by chainsaw girdling. It's fairly inexpensive, especially with modest subsidies by the federal goverment. You need 4 million new homes? Why not tear down decrepti commercial areas and rebuild there. That's what we Americans should have done. Instead of rebuiling on millions of acres of slums, and failed shopping centers, we continue to pave over "virgin" land. In the UK, I suspect forest land is so rare, your government should protect every last acre- to protect your valuable tourist trade. Nobody will go to the UK to see it completly paved over. But, with a wise governemnt you should be able to have it all- real forestry in a park like environement- managing for both timber and recreation- protected from the bulldozers. But the UK and America are now under the control of right wingers who don't understand or appreciate the beauty of land, except the land they personally own of course- their personal estates that become more common under the rule of the right. -- ------- http://forestmeister.com "The only forestry web page in the otherwise sophisticated state of Massachusetts"
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