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On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 17:45:56 -0700, Vurgil <Vurgil@arg.erg> wrote:

>In article <svl2l7lotqpn0bvve40kdchjqvkdvdj09t@4ax.com>,
> abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 16:20:21 -0700, Vurgil <Vurgil@arg.erg> wrote:
>> 
>> >In article <0Jb4r.3847$v14.689@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
>> > fasgnadh <fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>                   WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?!??
>> >
>> >That is an atheist's question. 
>> >So far there is no objective physical evidence supporting any claim of 
>> >godly existence.
>> >
>> >Thus there is no reason to assume that any gods exist.
>> 
>> 
>> what is amazing is how much you care!
>
>It is all those creationist trying to force their gods down our throats 
>by posting their poison to our NGS which leads is  to care.
>
>We are merely defending our constitutional right to be atheists.

do they tie you down and force you to believe :-)

>Science is allowed to err in its predictions, since it is also allowed 
>to correct those errors, and does so regularly and efficiently, but 
>religions are either eternally right or eternally wrong,

no they're not....they just act that way to give people a sense of
     stability...
but they most certainly change...
*nothing* is static

http://www.abelard.org/abelard/abelard2.htm
The language of Christianism in the United States has remained fairly
constant over the last 50 years, yet the emphasis has shifted
radically. Instead of emphasising hell fire and a narrow dogmatism,
the emphasis has changed to understanding, tolerance, and kindness in
the wake of the hippy revolution and growing psychological studies. It
was fascinating to watch this process in the recent attempt at a
pseudo-legal coup over Clinton�s consenting relationship with a
certain young lady. Clinton�s older enemies, raised in past rigidities
of thought, fatally misjudged their ability to use a harmless affair
as a means to political gain. They were instead met by a wave of
revulsion and rebellion from the younger generations, and support was
reported at well over the 60% level, despite the later evidence that
the country was evenly split in terms of party support. Gradually, a
tolerant liberalism is displacing the old, more repressive order.
Meanwhile the old guard struggle frantically to restore �order� and
authority.

> and creationism 
>is premier among the ones that are eternally wrong!

you can describe the real world in many ways...
reality remains

>On 22 March 1954 Einstein received a letter from J. Dispentiere, an 
>Italian immigrant who had worked as an experimental machinist in New 
>Jersey. Dispentiere had declared himself an atheist and was despaired by 
>a news report which had cast Einstein as conventionally religious. 
>Einstein replied on 24 March 1954:
>   It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious
>   convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. 
>   I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied 
>   this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me 
>   which can be called religious then it is the unbounded 
>   admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science 
>   can reveal it.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein's_religious_views

you really shouldn't rely on the likes of wikipedia!!

maybe he was being kind...

maybe he believed the reverse the next day....

you put too much reliance on words

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