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PepsiFreak@teranews.com proves that atheist Bob T is a LIAR:  B^D
> On 20/10/2010 10:02 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> On 19/10/2010 5:10 PM, Dakota wrote:
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/
>>>
>>> Featured Religions and Beliefs
>>>
>>> Atheism
>>> Baha'i
>>> Buddhism
>>> Candombl�
>>> Christianity
>>> Hinduism
>>> Islam
>>> Jainism
>>> Jehovah's Witnesses
>>> Judaism
>>> Mormonism
>>> Paganism
>>> Rastafari
>>> Santeria
>>> Shinto
>>> Sikhism
>>> Spiritualism
>>> Taoism
>>> Unitarianism
>>> Zoroastrianism
>>>
>>> Atheism is listed among the featured religions and beliefs.
>>
>> One of the more fundamentalist ones.
>>
>>> It is reasonable to object to that characterization
>>
>> No it isn't, Atheist organisations themselves
>> claim to be a religion, WHEN IT SUITS THEM! B^D
>>
>>
>> # It's Official, Atheists claim to be a persecuted RELIGION: B^D
>> #
>> #
>> # "THE Atheist Foundation of Australia has lodged complaints
>> # of religious discrimination in Melbourne and Hobart
>> #
>> # "'atheism counts as a religion', Dr Perkins said."
>> # The Age 29/1/2009
>>
>>  > because atheism is neither a religion or a belief
>>  > but simply the absence of belief.
>>
>> It looks as if you atheists argue over your beliefs as much
>> as any other religion!
>>
>> B^D
>>
>> But I agree with you that Atheism shouldn't be included
>> in a program titled "Religion and Ethics" because Atheism
>> is an unfounded, unproven belief in the non-existence of
>> something, and has no intrinsic ethical values.
>>
>> All it's values are derived from the legacy of the worlds
>> great spiritual traditions! B^]
>>
>>> the site is worth a visit
>>
>> It lacks detail.
>>
>> For example, neither that site nor any other, explains
>> why atheism, unlike the Great World Religions, has never
>> inspired, built and sustained a great and enduring civilisation..
>>
 >
 > Such as?

I listed all the atheist states showing how every one of them
has been a murderous dictatorship (the USSR, Maoist China,
Pol Pot's genocidal tyranny, etc) but you snipped them so I will put 
them back, below, so people can see what you don't want them to see;

 >
 > PEOPLE create civilizations

Sure.. RELIGIOUS people.. (eg 85% of Americans are religious,
only 0.7% are atheists..  atheists built Nth Korea!!!!!   B^D

AND..and all the great ciuvilisations are clearly inspired, built and
sustained by the spiritual values of their religious teachers,
the most ENDURING memes on the planet;

We have the Hindu civilisation which gave us brilliant mathematics
(including the Zero), sublime architecture like the Taj, and sensual
beauty like the Karma Sutra..

The Judeo Christian civilisation, as historians describe it has produced
most of the free open democratic and secular nations, such as the USA, 
Europe, Canada, Australia all created by their MAJORITY RELIGIOUS
societies.

 > - not religions, asshole.

You can't argue with success..  the most recent civilisation tracks from 
the Greeks and Romans, both religious societies, to the USA,
FOUR FIFTHS RELIGIOUS.. and printing "In God We Trust" on it's money!!!


You can't name ONE atheist regime that hasn't been a murderous TYRANNY!!


Q.E.D.

We never get any FACTS or evidence from you..  just WORTHLESS OPINIONS
and BASELESS BELIEFS..   pure prejudice!   pfffft!


 > Of course, as usual, you will never provide any valid evience

Perhaps someone drank it before you saw it, you poor imbecile!   B^D

All you have given us is:

 > piles of bull shit.

 >> only a pitiful set of failed totalitarian tyrannies, the atheist states;
 >
 > Don't forget all those secular states,

Secular, you poor dumbfuck does **NOT** equal atheist!!

The secular states have ALL been built by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS
SOCIETIES.. !!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA

Not ONE atheist government in history has EVER built a
free open, secular democratic state!!!

Go on..  NAME JUST ONE!!!

 > like the US.

BUILT BY A MAJORITY RELIGIOUS SOCIETY, you fuckwit!!!   B^D

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAA

# Subject: Re: US religious now at 85% - It's GOD in a LANDSLIDE!!!
# -Atheists wallow at 2.3% worldwide, 0.7% in the USA!  -a pitiful
# fraction of the minority of non-believers!  B^D
#
# From: fasgnadh <fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au>
# Newsgroups:
# alt.atheism,aus.religion,alt.religion,aus.politics,
# alt.politics.republicans, alt.politics.democrats,uk.politics.misc
# Message-ID: <8QNtl.26734$cu.16542@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
# Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:07:32 GMT
#
# American Religious Identification Survey, Summary Report March 2009:
#
# "Self-identification of U.S. Adult Population by Religious Tradition
#
#                         2001                   2008
#
# Non- religious     29,481,000  (14.1%)     34,169,000  (15%)
#
# Religious         167,254,000	  (80%)     182,198,000	 (80%)
#
# Agnostics             991,000   (0.5%)      1,985,000  (0.9%)
#
# Atheists              902,000   (0.4%)      1,621,000  (0.7%)
#
#
#
#   BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAA!
#
#

Atheists are a pathetic 0.7% of Americans!!  B^D  they have negligible
impact on the DEMOCRATIC outcome!  B^]

       2.3% worldwide!!!    B^D

   'NON-RELIGIOUS' DOES NOT  = ATHEIST, and SECULAR governments are the
    choice of the MAJORITY RELIGIOUS..  not your tiny, insignificant
    RABBLE!

If you want to see what ATHEISM in power produces, you have to go to 
North Korea!

Read some facts of history, and shed your atheist BLINKERS and BLIND BELIEF;

>>
>> # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004
>> #
>> # "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
>> # by a government, typically by active suppression of
>> # religious freedom and practice."
>> # - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
>> # Characteristics and Consequences,
>> # David Kowalewski,
>> # Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
>> #
>> #
>> # "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia�s Buddhist religion:
>> # monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
>> # Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
>> # other religious sentiments were often killed.
>> # ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
>> # and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
>> # and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
>> # starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
>> # prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
>> # instead of the family.
>> #
>> # About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
>> # were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot�s regime."
>> # - http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579038/pol_pot.html
>> #
>> # The Cambodian Genocide:
>> http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/392millones.jpg
>>
>>
>> #
>> # "The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks,
>> # regarded by the regime as social parasites,
>> # were defrocked and forced into labor brigades.
>> # Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were
>> # destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails.
>> # Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into
>> # rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying
>> # or expressing religious sentiments in other ways
>> # were often killed.
>> #
>> # The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most
>> # persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of
>> # Phnom Penh was completely razed.
>> #
>> # The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they
>> # regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed.
>> # Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed."
>> # - http://countrystudies.us/cambodia/29.htm
>> #
>> # "Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed
>> # because of their religion."
>> #
>> http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/44camboyano.jpg
>>
>> #
>> #
>> # "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
>> # - Daniel Peris,
>> # "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
>> # Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
>> #
>> #
>> # "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
>> # countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,
>> # Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
>> # Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
>> # promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
>> # - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
>> # Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
>> #
>> # In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
>> # intrinsic part of communist ideology.
>>
>> Atheism is also responsible for far more deaths than ANY OTHER
>> religion...  over 70,000,000 in just 70 years.
>
> Repeating an outrageously sick, uneducated, moronic LIE
> - does not make it truth.


Which is why atheism is in decline, since it's Heyday in the atheist
regimes of the 20th century, the USSR, Maoist China, Pol Pot's
genocidal regime..    responsible for the terror, torture and DEATH
of over 70,000,000 people!

You cannot dispute the facts of history, you lying apologist for atheist
tyranny!



.....


"At the dawn of the 20th Century approximately one half of the world's
population identified itself as either Muslim, Catholic, Protestant,
Hindu or Buddhist, and 100 years of secularism, and technological
advancement, and scientific progress later and that number is now
two thirds.

So, for those of you who enjoy beginning coffee shop
conversations with "The Death of God"  .. it's time to change
the subject! It's time to talk about something else , because
it's not happening at all.

People are becoming more religious, not less religious,
and religion itself is also evolving"