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Article #242Re: Clifford - Cohen - Foster - murder
From: Pat Harrington
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 01:55
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 01:55
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"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<zXrqc.138041$G_.58780@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>...
> "Pat Harrington" <PatrickDHarrington@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7517a083.0405180410.46cbe202@posting.google.com...
> >
> > But surely it's OK to find Jewish women sexually attractive, that
> > is, if they are. I mean there's a world of difference between the
> > likes of Bebe Neuwirth and Rachel Stevens on one hand and Bea Arthur
> > and Golda Meir on the other; but, to be fair, I don't know what Bea or
> > Golda looked like when they were younger. And, just because one finds
> > Jewish women sexually attractive, does not indicate that one is
> > Anti-Semitic, quite possibly the opposite.
>
> But the implication is that there is a "Jewish look" when there isn't.
> *That's* where the hint of bigotry seeps in, even if you don't realize it.
> Would you say that you "found Xian women sexually attractive"?
>
> Susan
I think there are several "Jewish looks" and this would be in
keeping with genetic traits. I know that there are Jews from all
races and, of course, converts will have the look of their own
ancestry; but, there are still certain classical jewish looks. No one
would mistake Jackie Mason for a Spaniard or Phil Silvers for an
American Indian. They both have certain features that one can
associate with a Jewish heritage. There's nothing wrong with that, of
course; we all look the way we do because of our genetics. I don't
think it's bigotry to find certain features attractive as long as you
don't arbitrarily hold it against those who don't have them or show
undue favouritism to those that do. It's just being aware of
genetics.
I've always thought that there was a certain "look" that was
shared by many people across the Southern United States, a sort of
"country" look, shared by the likes of Dolly Parton and Loretta Lynn
and Clint Black and Jerry Lee Lewis. Even Brittney Spears has a touch
of it. Since I've been in England, I've noticed that same look in
many people from the more Northern parts of England like Lancashire
and Yorkshire. So it probably boils down to many people in the
Southern US are descendants from Lancastrian and Yorkshire immigrant
families and the traits are tribal traits of the Angles and Danes, who
were the primary settlers in those areas.
There should be roughly 12 different Jewish "looks" that probably
have two or more expressions. Those that are Sephardic and those that
are Ashkenazic. The other "looks" would be from other parts of the
world where Jews moved to like Ethiopia.
Personally, my own high cheek bones are probably a combination of
my Irish heritage and my Cherokee heritage. It's all just how we're
genetically thown together.
To answer your question regarding whether I find Christian women
attractive. Well, I am married to a Catholic of half-Irish
half-English descent. I DO find her attractive; however, I'm not
particularly fond of her staunch beliefs and how she expects me to
pass her beliefs down to our children. That does put me off a bit but
not enough to worry about. I'm sure when the kids get older, they'll
ask me how I feel regarding religious beliefs and, with any luck,
they'll make informed decisions with which they are happy.
On a slightly different tack though, If I see a woman and find
her attractive and THEN I discover she's a Christian, she DOES go down
in my estimation; however, if I discover she's Jewish, she seems even
more attractive. So perhaps I am a bigot; but I can live with that.
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