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revmark wrote in message <37476241.1755DBA8@online1.magnus1.com>...
>JulieKale wrote:
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>> I don't know whether it's real or not. I disagree with it on a moral
level.
>> I believe the bible describes a hateful, sadistic, evil god. Thus, I will
>> not worship such a creature. I debate here as a form of recreation,
perhaps
>> you've heard of it?
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>Nope sorry that is a waste of time. there are other forms of exercise that
are
>more healthy than arguing.
>And did you ever think that maybe you see Him as an evil and hateful GOD,
>because you don't know Him personally? I know Him personally, and He proves
to
>me every day that He loves me.
>He has never asked me to do anything but to trust Him with the decisions of
my
>life. I could say no if I wanted to. I am not a Christian because I have to
be,
>but because I found a loving GOD who proved Himself to me when I trusted
Him.


Glenn R. wrote:
Then you obviously aren't worshipping the same god depicted in the christian
bible.
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>If you saw the way I showed affection to some of the young men that I
mentor,
>you would think that I was a pedophile, because we are so close. But if you
>were to talk to the children that know me, they can personally tell you
that I
>am not. And isn't it a coincidence that a few of them have been sexually
>molested by family members, yet they feel 100% safe in my home at all
times.
>That is because they know me, and have a personal relationship with me.
They
>trust me.


Glenn R. wrote:
So?  What has getting kids to trust you have to do with anything?  Almost
anyone who wants to can get children's affection and trust.  It is hardly
worth bragging about.
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>Isn't it also amazing when they have to make important decisions in their
life,
>they come to me to ask what I think first. Or when they get into trouble,
guess
>who's phone is the first one to ring. Because they respect me, and know
that no
>matter what, I will love them and help them, with no conditions other than
they
>clean up their act, and I even help them to do that.
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Glenn R. wrote:
You seem to be really tied up with your own sense of accomplishment.  Why do
you feel you have to brag so much about achievements that for most adults
would be barely worth mentioning?


>Not that I am trying to call myself GOD, but do you see a parallel here of
what
>I am trying to say?


Glenn R. wrote:
Yes, I do see a parallel and it is really sick. You are bragging and
boasting about nothing of merit.  Not only are your words the antithesis of
what your religion says would be acceptable behavior, it also borders on
lunacy.
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>My children know me personally, and they know not just the discipline side
of
>me, but also the caring and loving side of me. The ones that come here for
the
>first time are scared of me, because they don't totally know me yet. But
after
>they have been here a while, they tell the friend that brought them to my
house
>that they like coming here, and they start to like me, and then they trust
me
>to help them at their lowest times, and they know that I will always be
there
>for them, unless I am physically unable. But I earn their trust, and their
>respect, not demand it.



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>Well GOD earned my trust, and my respect, He didn't demand it.
>Jesus said, "Behold, I stand at the door of your heart and knock, and if
you
>let me in, then I will come in, and sup with you, and you with me." Until
you
>let Him in, He is just a stranger standing outside. But when you let Him
in, He
>reveals His true form to you, which is not just judgment, but unconditional
>love.


Glenn R. wrote:
So you take this one verse and just throw out all of the hundreds of
scriptures that paint an entirely different picture of your god.  To do this
is deceitful and grossly dishonest. Why do you live such a myopic existence?

>Let me give you a very easy statement to help you to understand why GOD
wants
>you to change.
>You are GOD's creation, but yet created in His perfect likeness. And when
He
>looks at you, He wants to be able to see His reflection. But when you are
dirty
>or marred from sin, it distorts that reflection, and then He can't see
Himself.
>So he puts you through the washing process so that the reflection again
becomes
>clean and perfect.
>The next time you take a shower, as soon as you step out of the shower,
step up
>to the mirror and see what you see, and how well you can see your face. If
your
>bathroom is like mine, you have to wipe it off before you can use it.
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>> As for having all the answers, I'm agnostic.
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>You should change that to antagonistic. (8^P)
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>GOD Bless
>revmark
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