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Article #433Re: Clifford - Cohen - Foster - murder
From: Tom Moore
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 01:21
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 01:21
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"PTRAVEL" <ptravel88-usenet@yahoo.com> wrote : > I have heard only you attacking them, > and attacking Jews as a group. To the extent that you comment without distancing yourselves, and your religion, from these bent Jewish solicitors Clifford Cohen & Foster aka GLP solicitors aka the Clifford Pfeffer Group - then you deserve censure. >> Unless a Jew - just one - would like to distance themselves from >> the unsavoury activities of bent Jewish solicitors Clifford Cohen >> & Foster - GLP solicitors - The Clifford Pfeffer Group? > > Why should a Jew do this? Works like this: first they came for the Jews, but I wasn't a Jew, so I did not say anything; . . . Trade Unionists . . . Communists . . . then they came for me, but there was no one left to speak for me. That's one reason. > To prove something to you, > who condemn all Jews [ . . . ]. I don't. That's not true. > What do you think Shindler learned from > his experiences as presented in the film? That he was better at saving lives, than he was a husband. He was apparently a little arrogant over his achievement: waiting for everyone to be seated, before entering at the annual reunion. Having said, I wish I had the chance to do as he did, and I hope if I ever do, that I will take it (not likely, given the short time I have left). > I can tell you this -- no US judge would > show the patience and sympathy > evinced by the judge at January hearing. No US Judge, I hope, would waste time, describing the prospect of sending an unelected Mayor - councillors get their turn to be Mayor for a year if they keep their council membership for long enough - to prison, as fun? I cannot comment too much. He seems to have dismissed the committal application, in order to deprive me of legal representation. What Tetlow does not tell me, though I try to ask, is what to do when solicitors disregard my instructions. He describes the mechanism, it's not relevant, or helpful, or a sensible use of public time and money. > Well, I'm not the only one who thinks otherwise, am I? Meaning? > The fact that one or more of > them is Jewish has nothing to do with anything, > something that you do not appear to understand. I do not agree with you. Hypocrisy is wrong. Murder is wrong. I do not believe anyone should ever even walk past on the other side of the street. It is relevant. They preach standards, and they do not abide by those standards. > There is nothing particularly "Jewish" about being > a bad lawyer (or, for that matter, a good one). > "Jew" is a religous and/or cultural identification, > nothing more nor less. Judaism sets standards, by which, for the most part, we should all abide. I cannot draw attention to those who are not Jews, bringing Judaism into disrepute; I can only do that when Jews misbehave. Same for Christians, et al. > To ascribe negative characteristics to all individuals > who identify as Jewish based on your experience of one > or two is stereotyping and the act of a bigot. I don't think I have. You have not criticised bent Jewish solicitors - Clifford Cohen & Foster aka GLP solicitors aka the Clifford Pfeffer Group - for declining my instructions, then using subsequent event to justify earlier events. Is that okay by you lot? Seems to me it is. > Your ability to express yourself suggests that you > are not a stupid or uneducated man. However, the > content of your expression suggests otherwise. I do not express myself very well, that is true. > Nor do I. However, I saw nothing on your website > which suggests that anyone wants to murder you. They are not going to state it explicitly, are they? Be realistic. If you think they approve of having any of their activities exposed, including their letters to others, look at the bottom of page of the letter at http://www.defamation.broomleigh.org/frameset3.html - where they clearly try to imply publishing letters sent to one is a breach of the writer's copyright. You may also read the remarks about True Christian Child Spanking, and notice that letter is supposed to be for Thomas Moore, that's me, Patron Saint of Politicians, and Ireland's National Poet. Stretches things a bit: the letter is to give the web site host an excuse for closing my site. Clearly, it is marked Private and Confidential - which means something in England - yet sent by fax to those web site hosts the days after sending it to me. These are not decent tactics, are they? Death comes from making me homeless. I have a machine I need to breathe at night. > Quite the contrary, as best as I can discern, > all that has happened is that your landlord > has attempted to make repairs to your flat, and I have offered them a key, because they claim they cannot get access. Once you've made a couple of appointments, they've not attended, then claimed access was denied, you're not likely to bother with further appointments, are you? > and some doctors have tried to assist with > your apena problem. You have been combative, > belligerent and rude to all, just as you > have been combative, belligerent and rude here. Actually, rudeness is symptomatic of sleep apnea. If you read it properly, you will see the reason for refusing me the dental device, is complete rubbish. Of course I am blamed: you don't expect the doctor to admit giving way to threats from the Jewish (and gay) solicitor Mr Christopher Bernard of Croydon solicitors Cook and Partners, do you? Either you end up blaming me for more than is possible, or try to look behind for the truth. This is not easy for me to describe, and demonstrate to others: I know the truth: I've seen it happen, time and time again. The rudeness allegation is untrue, irrelevant, and would not amount to anything because he is supposed to be treating a condition that causes rudeness. > Because I'm in the US, there's nothing I could do, That's not true. If I may put it like this, it circumscribes your abilities, but it also circumscribes the threats you could get for trying. > even if I was inclined to assist. A matter for you. > However, that doesn't matter as I would not be > so inclined because, as I said at the onset, you > are an offensive, antisemitic cross-poster. The cross-posting is to get into search engines. I hope some of this survives me. I deny anti Semitism. This sort of thing is increasing, especially in Russia where they talk about companies being subject to abusive take overs. Judges are bribed and/or threatened into handing a business over to someone other than its rightful owner. We've had it - I think - in the UK, for some time, because I gather Irish Republicans always had difficulty getting representation. This was resolved, to an extent, after years of IRA suspects refusing to speak in UK Courts, owing to the block place of legal representation if IRA suspects by the Royal Ulster Constabulary. Now they are doing it to others. Soon, it will be common. -- http://www.tom-moore.com
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