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Article #558Re: RELIGION'S RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ADVANCE OF ATHEISM
From: rogue
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:35
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:35
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On Oct 23, 5:20 am, CarolynAdamoGul...@remailer.metacolo.com wrote: >JABBERS > The churches of Christendom have not made clear to people why > wickedness and suffering have been allowed to exist for a time on > earth. Rather, they have taught lies about God, painting him as an > unmerciful fiend who keeps humans alive in some subterranean lake of > fire, where they cook and sizzle in excruciating pain throughout > eternity. Such teachings have turned many away from God. JERRY You say that like it's a bad thing: turning people from superstition is a good thing. > JABBERS > Many modern theologians and clergymen are even coming to terms with > atheism. "I have preached more and more in the past decade on the > values of atheism and agnosticism," wrote Episcopal Bishop James A. > Pike. "There has to be a large measure of agnosticism in true > religion," he asserted. And Time magazine of June 9, 1961, observed > that "Paul Tillich, America's most eminent theologian, talks of God > as 'Being Itself' or 'Ultimate Reality.'" This characterization, > however, says an article entitled "Is Modern Theology Atheistic?" > appearing in the Protestant journal The Christian Century, "saves > Tillich from the charge of atheism." But is not this sort of theology > that borders on atheism enough to cause a lot of persons to question > the existence of God? > > It is therefore apparent that the churches, instead of building faith > in God, have been responsible for millions of persons turning toward > atheistic communism. JERRY "atheistic communism?" One has nothing to do with the other. Atheism is a lack of belief in a deity. Communism is an economic system. Showing your ignorance again, Antonio? > JABBERS RANTS CONTINUE WITH: > Their conflicting teachings, religious > persecutions, warmongering and currying the favor of the rich and > influential have caused many to reason that, if the churches represent > God, then there must not be a God. Many responsible churchmen admit > religion's guilt. JERRY Its' just a sign that the clergy are no smarter than the superstitious populace, Jabbers. > JABBERS > "I know that it is we, we Christians alone, who are responsible for > Communism," admitted the dean of a European theological > school. "Remember that the Communists once were Christians. If they do > not believe in a just God, whose fault is it?" And the dean of the > faculty at New York City's Union Theological Seminary > acknowledged: "The very atheism of Communism is a judgment upon the > churches, . . . which have usually been ornaments of the status quo, > no matter how unjust it has been." > > The failure of the churches to imitate Christ and to provide accurate > knowledge concerning God has prepared the way for atheism. JERRY Well, that and the failure of superstition to be better than science, and more and more people figuring out that there is no wrong in failing to believe in a non-existent deity. In fact, giving up superstition is one of the most liberating things a person can do.
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X-Google-Thread: 100202,f0080230d2ceb5ba X-Google-Thread: 100922,f0080230d2ceb5ba X-Google-Thread: 1090fd,f0080230d2ceb5ba X-Google-Thread: 1408f1,f0080230d2ceb5ba X-Google-Attributes: gid100202,gid100922,gid1090fd,gid1408f1,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: rogue <rogue719@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.atheism,alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,alt.religion,free.christians Subject: Re: RELIGION'S RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ADVANCE OF ATHEISM Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:35:47 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 68 Message-ID: <1193117747.453958.21170@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> References: <87233981ad6ceec99a7404b01e7ccb1b@remailer.metacolo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.172.8.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1193117748 25616 127.0.0.1 (23 Oct 2007 05:35:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:35:48 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87233981ad6ceec99a7404b01e7ccb1b@remailer.metacolo.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.8) Gecko/20071008 Firefox/2.0.0.8,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=192.172.8.14; posting-account=ps2QrAMAAAA6_jCuRt2JEIpn5Otqf_w0