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sdrodrian@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In article <1c88e830.16ac4716@usw-ex0105-038.remarq.com>,
>   jon <ibalNOibSPAM@slip.net.invalid> wrote:
> >> *This is why
> >> before Copernicus all the mathematicians on the earth could PROVE
> >> that
> >> the entire universe orbited earth (and predicted orbits
> >> quite "satisfactorily") with their equations.*

	Can you bend space?  Yes.  I have a space bending machine in my
garage.  I ordered it through the mail.  It doesn't work as well as I
thought it would.  Sometimes it wads up space and my space gets all
tangled up.
> 
> > Actually, it was the inability to "satisfactorily" predict orbits
> > that drove the work of Copernicus, and later Kepler.
> 
> Just as it is the inability of the Big Bang model & Einstein
> to predict "at all" that the so-called "expansion" of the
> univese is accelerating... that drove my work; as it will drive
> the work of those who will hereafter achieve more precise
> models.  Ah, that I should live to see them do it!

	I don't know what your work is, but I'll be serious for a minute.  
	Consider this:  Science is currently using 15 billion years as the age
of the galaxies.  Let's assume, for a minute, that this figure is
correct.  
	That means that all of the galaxies formed and turned on ( lit up ) 15
billion years ago.  
	The light from these galaxies has been traveling for 15 billion years.
	This means that those galaxies that are 16 billion light-years away,
won't be visible for another billion years.  The same thing applies to
those galaxies that are 100 light-years away and to those that are a
billion, trillion light-years away. (if there are any)
	We, the Universe, are condensing out of a giant cloud of hydrogen gas. 
I suspect that it is the result of the hydrogen cloud cooling to a point
that condensation could take place.
	How big was that cloud?  There is no way that humans will ever know
this because the human race will not last another billion years.
	As far as the expansion is concerned, the only reason that anyone ever
thought that is, the red shift.
	If the entire Universe were falling in a yet greater gravitational
influence, those galaxies that were below us would fall sooner and those
galaxies that are higher than us, would fall later.
	Hence, a red shift in any direction.  Those below us are pulling away
from us and we are pulling away from those galaxies above us.
	Hence, a red shift in both directions.
	I feel safe in saying that humans will never know the size or shape of
the Universe.
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        HEY-JOE@swbell.net.....Atheist "X", the generic atheist.