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On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 15:25:24 -0800 (PST), Kent Paul Dolan
<xanthian@well.com> wrote:

>How sad for your claims of innocence of breaking the
>law then, that you chose to attempt to import it
>into _Australia_, where doing so was a clear
>violation of the law.

 How was it a clear violation of the law ?  

>> As for you assertions that I should foget about
>> censorship because of a) b) or c) I can tell you
>> now I will never do that in my lifetime.

>Then you will continue to send your life down a rat
>hole. Yawn.

 Tell that to other commentators such as fellow ELSIC member Dr. Roger
Clarke of the Australian Privacy Foundation.

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22994912-5001031,00.html

Net censorship taking on water

By Galen English

January 02, 2008 12:00am

A seething Dr Roger Clarke, chair of the Australian Privacy
Foundation, bluntly described the proposal as "stupid and
inappropriate".

He said not only was it unworkable, but it was a sinister blow to an
individual's rights to use the internet without censorship.

"Not only will it not work, it is quite dangerous to let the
Government censor the net and take control out of the hands of
parents,' Clarke said.

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 You'll find his email address here:-

  http://www.acs.org.au/index.cfm?action=show&conID=acselsic

Members of ELSIC 

Individual members 

ELSIC members are appointed by the ELSIC Chair, who is elected for a
two year term by ACS Council. The Chair is required to ensure that
his/her Committee is broadly based and (if possible) that it includes
nominees of Branch Executive Committees. 

Dr Roger Clarke FACS - roger.clarke@xamax.com.au 
Roger is a consultant in eBusiness, information infrastructure, and
dataveillance and privacy. He is also a Visiting Professor at the
Australian National University (in Computer Science), at UNSW (in
Cyberspace Law & Policy) and at Uni of Hong Kong (in eCommerce). He
was Chair of ELSIC 1985-1995, and Director of the ACS Community
Affairs Board 1989-1992. 

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Bob Bain - bobb@acslink.net.au 
Bob Bain is a Member of the Australian Computer Society and a Fellow
PNA (Professional National Accountant) of the National Institute of
Accountants. Bob is interested in the implications and ethics of
censorship and free speech including censorship and regulation
relating to on-line communications. Bob has been a user of computer
Bulletin Boards since 1988 and the global Internet since 1993. Bob
holds a Master of Commerce degree from the University of New England. 

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 I have met Dr. Clarke.  He writes in the Australian National
University "Link" list which if you are at all interested in matters
of Australian law and the ethics and ethos of Australia then I suggest
you get up your vagrant's butt (you've been in prison I understand for
vagrancy), save up the fare to Australia and visit this country and
talk to some of us personally.

 I find your remarks grossly offensive and in at least one instance
libellious and in considering matters of law I will take into account
those who misrepresent my views and present them as fact.