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Article #17149Re: "Australia joins China in Censoring the Internet" (TechCrunch)
From: Kent Paul Dolan
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:57
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:57
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Bob Bain <+...@tpg.com.au> wrote: > You have made false accusations against me in a > public forum. Produce one and document that it is false. You merely _reinterpret_ my statements into strawmen, and then claim that those strawmen are false, which is nothing close to finding the original statements as written to be false. You are, in this behavior, simply acting demented. > You have also misinterpreted (grossly) statements > I may have made in private email. Really? In what _provable_ way are my interpretations incorrect? If you _read_ my words, rather than warping them into some entirely other words in your mind before ingesting them, you'll find I have been Caeser's wife indeed in sticking strictly to matters to which you have already made public and private confession. You've already had to retract many of your claims in this regard, and I fail to see any remaining substance you haven't already confessed to be true. > At least you haven't attempted to intimidate me > with threats to declare to Centrelink "earnings > from illegal activity" made in the name of Tony > Smith while my mother lay on her death bed - nor > have you suggested directly that one day the > police may knock on my door and beat me to a pulp > on account of the fact I discuss censorship, > ethics and legality in Usenet. This is merely an example of your pathologically insane semantic freighting; none of this has the least relationship to your claims that I have made false accusations against you, this is simply you being entirely intellectually dishonest by trying to associate my claims with matters repugnant to you and to your audience. > At that time I issued a complaint to Yahoo which > some seem to have regarded as "fun". This is a non sequitur, you dragging in material that has no relationship to the discussion, again an example of your intellectual dishonesty. You rambling on interminably about all the injuries the entirely world has putatively ever done to you has precisely no merit is supporting your false accusatin that I have libeled you. You seem unable not only to support that accusation, but even to stay focused on it for the length of a News article. > I am not at this point in time guilty of any > criminal activity What is that supposed to mean? You have already publicly in this very thread confessed to being tried, convicted, and fined for your behavior. That isn't something done to those innocent of criminal behavior. > and as noted am entitled to protection built into > the Statutes of New South Wales. That is a meaningless noise. All that protection was already given to you in a court of law, and you were _still_ convicted. > It is libellous to suggest that I have ever been > convicted of an offence involving Australia's > "less than liberal" censorship laws, But you have confessed in this thread to that very fact. > which by implication can be taken to mean that I > have been convicted of being in possession of > child pornography No it cannot, that is a strawman repeatedly dragged into these discussions by you because you are entirely unable to cope with reality. You were found to have attempted to import an unclassified video tape when doing so was A VIOLATION OF THE LAW OF AUSTRALIA. Full stop. No child porn in any way involved. Quite trying to drag kiddie porn into the discussion _in your defense_, a despicable example of your incredibly intellectual dishonesty and attempts at misdirection in these discussions. > something that is not and has never been true and > never will be true. No one said it was, except you trying to misdirect the discussion. > I have at no time attempted to harrass you. Sending me threats to quit libeling you when I have never done any such thing was harrassment, full stop. I took the trouble to copy that to your ISP, as I don't at all intend to be bullied by you or any other pissant intellectual munchkin unable to keep his thinking straight for the five consecutive minutes it takes to type a News posting. > I simply posted two opinion pieces from the net - > items which are being discussed in blogs and open > forums at the present time. That is a non sequitur, your harrassment was in the private email my response to which you dishonestly posted without permission, discussion, or necessity. Since doing so convicts you of intellectual dishonesty from your own keyboard, you've just made yourself a laughingstock. Not that you weren't one already, so this merely reinforces your reputation as a whiner and cheat. > I am not under suspicion in respect of illegal > activity. No, you are ALREADY tried, convicted, and punished by a fine for illegal activity. This statement by you trying to rewrite that history all of which you have confessed in public, by misdirection now, is merely yet another example of your intellectual dishonesty at work. Double jeopardy being presumably as unacceptable to the law of Oz as it is to the law of the USA, you would have to commit new illegal activity to again be under suspicion of having done so, unless your authorities just habitually grab suspicions out of the passing breeze and apply them at random to Ozites. > I have however pointed out that certain items in > my possession (and sent to me by those entrusted > with enforcing the law) have caused me much misery > and grief to the point where legal action may be > an appropriate remedy. Bull. Your "misery and grief" are entirely self-inflicted, entirely created in self-interest by you in your attempts to rewrite your personal history, i.e., the represent flat out insanity, and are not the business of the constituted authorities to ameliorate. If the material offended you so greatly, a rubbish tip was a much better target for it than a law enforcement office. > I can only repeat I am awaiting a reply from the > Prime Minister of Australia (Kevin Rudd) in > respect to an email sent to him on 12th. > September 2007 regarding the grief these items and > the accusations have caused me. Um, seem my previous note that inaction is what bureaucrats do. If you are waiting to get your life out of the gutter into which you have discarded it until some bureaucrat takes the time to sort out your personality problems as directed at video tapes and the delusion that conservative Australia's freedom of access to video taped material should match in all respects the most liberal treatment you can find applied anywhere elsewhere on planet Earth, you are in line for an _immense_ wait. Sorting out constituants' mental health issues is in no way part of the charter a bureaucrat takes on by being elected. They have enough problems dealing with constituants' _sane_ requests. > If necessary I can produce letters to people > entrusted with the enforcement of law in this > country and inparticular a letter to the former > Attorney General of Australia - Philip Ruddock in > respect of those matters. What is necessary is for you to find the sanity to stop annoying the constituted authorities with your mental health issues, not to keep flogging them in ever greater detail on Usenet as if that were going to make the world match the demented map you have of it in your head. > You may note that copies of this Usenet posting > are being sent to those whom you appear to > believe should sever my Internet connection - > simply because I dispute the wrongful allegations > you have made. Well, to do that, you'd first have to list such wrongful allegations, without dragging in your many, many strawman misstatements of what I've written, and then you'd have to show how what I've written, with great care by me not to go beyond exactly what you've already confessed, is in any way different from the things to which you _have_ confessed. Instead, you have limited yourself to whining, misdirection, erection of strawmen, generalities behind which are no specifics, and a whole litany of intellectually dishonest behaviors to try to warp those true things I've written to be some entirely other things which I have NOT written, because the true things I've said about you distress your inablity to honestly confront your own misdeeds once and for all and then proceed with your life leaving them behind you as lessons learned. You most profoundly are REJECTING learning the needed life lessons from your offense, trial, and conviction, in your ongoing flood of boring trivia about the very mild censorship laws of Australia. > Bob Bain xanthian, not withdrawing a damned word.
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