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On 17 May 2005 12:00:45 -0700, "kevindotcar" <kevindotcar@gmail.com>
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<1116356445.352246.154760@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>:

>> TRUE. Feminist organizing against rape, battery, prostitution, and
>> pornography is the theme of many writings available in the Andrea
>> Dworkin Online Library. A good place to start is the extensive table
>> of contents for Letters From a War Zone, which includes many speeches
>> she gave to Take Back the Night rallies, including "The Night and
>> Danger," about the relation of violence against women to racism.

>>  In short she was anti-pornography and is regarded as such.

>  She WROTE porn- She just objected to it being violent
>  against women ... big difference which more than some
>  don't seem to comprehend.

 Please refer to the post I made a few moments ago.

 It should perhaps be pointed out that in many cases women have a
desire to be dominated or to dominate.  Some sites on the Internet
feature "violence" by women against women as a form of entertainment
and I can select www.kickinggirls.com which features violence by women
against women which is arguably a non-pornographic site.

 You can download short video clips of violence by women against women
(and some of women against men ) at

   http://www.kickinggirls.com/theater/theater-main.htm

 This arguable isn't "pornographic" as there is no nudity or the
depiction of sexual intercourse but there are sites and indeed films
in New South Wales that depict dominant activity by women against
women with the women involved (both dominant and "victim") which does
involve nudity and in which the women willingly participate.  There
are also lesbian sites on the Internet which feature sexually
orientated violence by women against women.

 I realise Ms. Dworkin probably never took into account that some
women have a fetish for such material and indeed produce and seemingly
willingly and openly participate in it.

 Where does that leave Ms. Dworkin's arguments ?

 The same comments apply to the Eros Foundation here in Australia who
argue at great length that uncesnored films involving plain vanilla
sexual intercourse is "good", but that almost anything else is "bad"
and should be banned.

 (posted also to aus.censorship)

 I *do* censorship !!