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Article #17164Re: andrea dworkin memorial haiku
From: Bob Bain
Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 00:40
Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 00:40
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On 19 May 2005 12:55:54 -0700, "Bibliophilia" writing in talk.bizarre wrote:- >kDot: >> Unless I'm misunderstanding you, The "Adult >>Entertainment" industry seeks legality at >>every level; from Credit Card processing to >>politics; starting with tax-deductible union fees. >That is Bob's quote. I assume the porn industry has profited from the >legalization efforts; illegality might drive up the price but will >shrink the market, because some people will be deterred by the idea of >embarrassing arrest, etc. In New South Wales (Australia) there are two fundamental groups a) those that seek legalisation but despite knowing that what they sell is just as illegal as group (b) sell it anyway (that's Howard government approved (modified) "X" rating) and group b) who have never sought legalisation and simply sell whatever the market demands subject to the whims of whoever is in power at any particular time. Back in the early 1970's the Whitlam government (Australia) pushig the boundaries and objection of even those within his party (which arguably the more conservative of the two major political parties in Australa) along with others such as Don Chipp removed many puritanical ideas from the culture of Australia. Around that time an "X" rating was very similar to what I believe an "X" rating in the United States to be. It wasn't a rating devoted to porn and it wasn't a sexual rating (from memory) but covered anything that couldn't be rated under the other "film" ratings. In the United States I might add there is no compulsion at a Federal level by law to have a film classified. From around 1976, which was roughly the time the videotape came onto the market there was no legal sanction against the sale or hire of homel video material that isn't rated and hence almost everything was legal. I recall around that time a newspaper clipping (alleged to be from Mafia source)s that stated that "we're not interested in this market while it's legal". In 1984 all State governments outlawed the sale of video material for use in the home (VHS, Betamax, DVD) unless it was rated. In every State of Australia it is a criminal offence to sell or display anything that doesn't carry on OFLC rating and that ranges from material intended for children (including cartoons that many parents object to) to adult sexually oriented material. It's not just a criminal offence to sell porn but to sell _anything_ that hasn't been rated by the OFLC. If a store or an individual sells anything from "Mary Poppins" to "Discipline in Women's Penal Institution Part 1" (corporal punishment) (which I saw on sale yesterday) then it is in breach of criminal law and whomsoever sells such material and is prosecuted for it becomes at law a criminal - whether the penalty is a few hundred dollars fine or 12 months imprisonment (these are the penalties under New South Wales law). I think it's fair to say that from the early 1990's the law in New South Wales has been completely disregarded and as the nice people at the Eros Foundation like to point out nobody to date has ever gone to prison for selling anything from "X" to "RC" (Refused Classifcation) material ;- subject only to the rigid enforcement regarding anything that smacks of true child abuse. In New South Wales we retain the right to view or read whatever we wish -with the sole exception of true "child abuse" material, although there are sections of the Crimes Act that have long since been forgotten. This is not a right that has been won, but a right that has never been taken away (although there was a furore over the current government's desire in 1996 to criminalise material uploaded or downloaded to or from the Internet "transmitted"). This was the thinking of the then State Attorney General who has recently been convicted of crimes under the New South Wales justice system. There's also a small contingent (c) who have nothing to do with groups (a) or (b) and who are simply sole proprietors doing their own thing in their own way and without any indication of hinderance by the legislative processes. (posted also to aus.censorship in the spirit of free speech)
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