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In article <3glqne$42s@hawk.le.ac.uk> nph1@le.ac.uk (N.P. Hogarth) writes:
>   In article <3g0f7m$c0h@brachio.zrz.tu-berlin.de>,
>   Jason Reese <mere1034@mailszrz.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> wrote:
>   >In article <3fbrgb$2kdc@argo.unm.edu>, ecowan@unm.edu (Erin Cowan) writes:

>   >> compare that to a record of british defeats around the world, starting
>   >> with caesar's conquest of your pathetic island, all the way up to your
>   >> humiliating spanking by argentina.

>	   Oh dearie me, guess who's been reading the history books with his 
>   thumb up his ass...

>	   For the record, the last time we lost a serious war was 1066 AD, 
>   when William the Conqueror defeated the forces of King Harold at the 
>   Battle of Hastings. 

JC didn't conquer Britain; he brought over a couple of expeditions
(55BC and 54BC) but didn't establish a presence.
("Veni, vid, vici" was about his campaign in Turkey.)

The real Roman conquest began with the emperor Claudius,
who _did_ grab and keep some territory.
But the Romans never had a conquest of the island
(pathetic or not); they lost a legion in what
is now Wales, and built a couple of walls
to keep out the inhabitants of what is now
Scotland.  They conquered the easy, flat bits:
`England'.

Same with William the Bastard (as he was known
before the conquest); Scotland and Wales stayed
free for centuries before we finished losing that war.
We've lost some pretty serious wars since then,
such as being gradually kicked out of France,
and anybody who thinks we won at Suez needs his
dick examined (I'd say "needs his head examined",
but that's obviously not what he thinks with.)


          Remember Suez?

  England, unlike junior nations
  Wears officer's long combinations
  So no embarrassment was felt
  By Church, Establishment or Crown
  But I saw the Thames like a grubby old belt
  And London's trousers falling down.
                                        (Adrian Mitchell)


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