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In article <D055G8.E74@mcdata.com> fredw@mcdata.com (Yabba Dabba Dude) writes:
>In <3bkgbo$i43@icebox.mfltd.co.uk>, dnh@mfltd.co.uk (Des Herriott) writes:
>>fredw@mcdata.com (Yabba Dabba Dude) wrote:
>>>
>>>>>* Ended cold war with help of star-wars trump card.   FACT
>>>>
>>>   Des>Bullshit.  Almost got the entire planet nuked with star-wars "trump
>>>   Des>card" 'cos he was too senile to understand the madness he was
>>>   Des>perpetrating.  What ended the Cold War was the Eastern European people
>>>   Des>(spurred on by Gorbachev's reforms) deciding they'd had enough.
>>>
>>>Oh goodie, another cliched liberal!  Go have a Gorbasm with Kevin, I'm sure
>>>you'll both enjoy it.
>>
>>Care to back that last claim up?  That's how the Cold War did end - the
>>U.S. had nothing to do with it.  Eastern European people simply decided
>>that they'd had enough of the whole communist mess.
>
>Hard to believe your a System Programmer with that kind of logic.
>The Eastern European people had enough of Communism for some 30
>years, but were against too powerful central structure to do anything about
>it (review your Chech history).  The Soviets couldn't keep up with the massive 
>80s buildup, especially with an economy that had been on the skids for years.  
>SDI influenced Russian policy changes and brought Gorby to the table sooner.  
>I'm sorry you missed the numerous Soviet Generals that attested to this very 
>fact.  Or maybe you read these same reports and are to biased and partisan 
>to admit it.
>
>Yabba
>
>
Er...so what you are essentially saying is, even though it was a completely
stupid idea that could never possibly work, and we were just throwing
trillions in the hole over it (and other 'defense' plans), it was
a *good* idea? Because all Russians are as smart as topsoil, or was it
that they didn't believe anyone could possibly be as stupid as Ronnie?
That MUST have been it. <snicker>

-Dave
ford@cats.ucsc.edu

"ie. would the world have really been so much more terrible with a few
 more years of soviet 'threat'? were they really going to kill us all
 in our sleep? probably not..."