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Karni06 <Karni06@aol.com> wrote:
>In article <rayD027on.A95@netcom.com>, ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>  Yabba Dabba Dude <fredw@mcdata.com> wrote:
>> > William_Mosco@vos.stratus.com writes:

>> >> Please tell me one great thing the man did? 
>> >
>> >* Greatest economic expansion since WWII.   FACT
>> 
>> Financed with $3,000,000,000,000 of debt (how good can _you_ make the
>> economy look by giving everyone in the country $10,000? (well,
>> actually only the rich got the money))
>
>Which only had a marginal effect on the U.S. economy (gov't spending doesn
>*not* drive the economy), and was brought about by the Democrat House.

"Marginal effect"?!?  The US economy did well because of Reagan's
charm and good looks instead?  And, by the way, that budget was one
Reagan proposed (the massive military spending was his), and one 
Reagan signed.

>> >* Restored military strength & morale.   FACT
>> 
>> Blew billions of dollars on the Star Wars boondoggle.
>
>Says you. Prove that the idea is wrong.

It doesn't work.  After more than a decade there is nothing to show
for it.  It couldn't work.  Anyone with even a basic understanding of
the limits of technology and computers can tell you the idea was
infeasable.  The whole project was nothing more than military
welfare.

>> >* Ended cold war with help of star-wars trump card.   FACT
>> 
>> Crap.  The USSR's economy fell apart.
>
>Because we escalated the arms race to the point where they couldn't put in
>the resources to keep up.

Evidence?  You ask the Russian's and they'll tell you that poor
planning and massive innefficiencies and corruption were the cause of
it.  Even conservative Republicans like to claim that communism is
inherently flawed and unworkable.

>> >* Strong leadership, no waffling.    FACT
>> 
>> "Stay the course" right into recession.
>
>Do you know *anything* about the boom and bust cycle? The point is was
>that that expansion was the longest in post WWII history. And the
>Recession that has followed has been relatively mild.

Ah.  So the rescession is part of a "boom and bust cycle", but the
expansion was due to Reagan?  Looks like you're trying to have it
both ways.

>> >* Silenced Khadafi.   FACT
>> 
>> Khaddafi is still ruler of Libya.  And Reagan only killed a few people
>> with that air raid and the subsequent retaliation.  But what's a
>> couple hundred lives.  Especially considering the terrorism he funded
>> in Central America killed thousands.
>
>But Reagan neutralized the Middle East terrorists like Lybia.

!?!  I supposed the fact that those terrorists then caused the deaths
of over 400 people over Lockerbie, Scotland, is a fluke?  Or the
bombing of the World Trade Center?  The invasion of Kuwait?

Yep.  Them terrorists sure were "neutralized".

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