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In <3bhrcu$jh0@icebox.mfltd.co.uk>, dnh@mfltd.co.uk (Des Herriott) writes:
William_Mosco@vos.stratus.com (Bill M.) writes:
lewis@lumina.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:

>fredw@mcdata.com (Yabba Dabba Dude) wrote:
>
>[ what great things did Reagan achieve? ]
>
>>* Greatest economic expansion since WWII.   FACT

  Bill>Without trying to balance the government's budget; an unlikely thing
  Bill>to come out of a republican white house.
  Bill>his was a first, and out of the norm when dealing with government
  Bill>and economics; it was irrational.

Reagan has the best record of economic indicators for ALL 
post-war Presidents.  Boy, I see your point, this is irrational!

  Keith>On borrowed money.
  Keith>Thank you, Ronnie, for record-setting peacetime budget deficits.

Keith starts off here as a typical liberal who has no facts and argues
on cliches and rhetoric only.  Go have some herbal tea with your friends.

>>* Restored military strength & morale.   FACT

   Bill>Restored it?  How?  We were a superpower before he went into office.
        One failed mission in Iran doesn't mean the whole military was
        weak.

I didn't say our military was weak.  If you do some research you will see that 
by the end of Carter's term:  1) public confidence in the military had dropped,
and 2) the military confidence in its Commander-in-Chief had dropped.  You can
try to ignore the facts, but Reagan's leadership and boost in military spending 
clearly improved both military morale and public confidence.

>>* Ended cold war with help of star-wars trump card.   FACT
>
   Des>Bullshit.  Almost got the entire planet nuked with star-wars "trump
   Des>card" 'cos he was too senile to understand the madness he was
   Des>perpetrating.  What ended the Cold War was the Eastern European people
   Des>(spurred on by Gorbachev's reforms) deciding they'd had enough.

Oh goodie, another cliched liberal!  Go have a Gorbasm with Kevin, I'm sure
you'll both enjoy it.

=>* Ended cold war with help of star-wars trump card.   FACT 

   Bill>Right place right time.  You cannot credit Reagan for the Soviets
         financial problems.  Besides, the cold war ended while bush was
         in office; do you credit bush also?  What about the democratic
         Congress?  Does congress have power?

You don't thinks the Soviets financial problems had anything to do
with Reagan's military buildup ?  Haven't you heard that the top Soviet
brass conceeded that Star Wars played a major role in bringing an end
to the Cold War ?  Don't be blind to the facts!

=>* Fired illegally striking PATCO members.   FACT 

   Bill>Everyone has a natural right to strike.

Not when they sign a statement before accepting the job that they
will NOT GO ON STRIKE.  Are you familiar with the term integrity ?
And lest you forget, they accepted an extermely fair Government 
proposal, then rejected it when R. Poli injected them with more 
brainwashing and told them to hold out for more.

Yabba