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=>In article <D03AD2.KHs@mcdata.com> fredw@mcdata.com (Yabba Dabba Dude) wrote:  
=>In <3bhrcu$jh0@icebox.mfltd.co.uk>, dnh@mfltd.co.uk (Des Herriott) writes: 
=>William_Mosco@vos.stratus.com (Bill M.) writes: 
=>lewis@lumina.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes: 

=>>fredw@mcdata.com (Yabba Dabba Dude) wrote: 

=>>[ what great things did Reagan achieve? ] 

=>>>* Greatest economic expansion since WWII.   FACT 

=>  Bill>Without trying to balance the government's budget; an unlikely thing 
=>  Bill>to come out of a republican white house. 
=>  Bill>his was a first, and out of the norm when dealing with government 
=>  Bill>and economics; it was irrational. 

=>Reagan has the best record of economic indicators for ALL  
=>post-war Presidents.  Boy, I see your point, this is irrational! 

 So?  What about the government's budget? 

=>  Keith>On borrowed money. 
=>  Keith>Thank you, Ronnie, for record-setting peacetime budget deficits. 

=>Keith starts off here as a typical liberal who has no facts and argues 
=>on cliches and rhetoric only.  Go have some herbal tea with your friends. 

 Of course it's borrowed, how else does the government get into 
 debt?  Wouldn't be on credit now would it? 

=>>>* Restored military strength & morale.   FACT 

=>   Bill>Restored it?  How?  We were a superpower before he went into office. 
=>        One failed mission in Iran doesn't mean the whole military was 
=>        weak. 

=>I didn't say our military was weak.  If you do some research you will see that  
=>by the end of Carter's term:  1) public confidence in the military had dropped, 

 What does public confidence have to do with the military itself? 

=>and 2) the military confidence in its Commander-in-Chief had dropped.  You can 
=>try to ignore the facts, but Reagan's leadership and boost in military spending  
=>clearly improved both military morale and public confidence. 

 He didn't restore military strength, as you have asserted. 

 [snip] 

=>=>* Ended cold war with help of star-wars trump card.   FACT  

=>   Bill>Right place right time.  You cannot credit Reagan for the Soviets 
=>         financial problems.  Besides, the cold war ended while bush was 
=>         in office; do you credit bush also?  What about the democratic 
=>         Congress?  Does congress have power? 

=>You don't thinks the Soviets financial problems had anything to do 
=>with Reagan's military buildup ?   

 No.  The Soviets had been wasting money for years.  Communism was bound 
 to crash. 

=>Haven't you heard that the top Soviet 
=>brass conceeded that Star Wars played a major role in bringing an end 
=>to the Cold War ?  Don't be blind to the facts! 

 And the soviet brass are economic experts? 

=>=>* Fired illegally striking PATCO members.   FACT  

=>   Bill>Everyone has a natural right to strike. 

=>Not when they sign a statement before accepting the job that they 
=>will NOT GO ON STRIKE.   

 So?  Doesn't mean they don't have a right to strike, they obviously did, 
 since they did strike. 

=>Are you familiar with the term integrity ? 

 Yes. 

=>And lest you forget, they accepted an extermely fair Government  
=>proposal, then rejected it when R. Poli injected them with more  
=>brainwashing and told them to hold out for more. 

 Document please. 

 --Bill M.