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"(�`�.� Craig Chilton �.���) " <a@e.com> wrote:
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> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 05:27:55 +0200,
> BIGOTED LOWLIFE, "BILL TAYLOR,"
> {aka "richard dickman") <richarddickman@taos.com> wrote:
> >  (�`�.� Craig Chilton �.���)
> >   wrote:
> >>  BIGOTED LOWLIFE, "BILL TAYLOR,"
> >>  {aka [MORONIC ALIAS] wrote:
>
>
> >>>     Screaming is good.  Faggots do that a lot.
>
> >>      Especially when they are LOSING, and their hate-agendas
> >> are ACCELERATING down the Drain of Extinction, from which
> >> they will never be heard from again.  As is now happening to
> >> YOU.
>
> >    The only good faggot is a cremated faggot.
>
>      *Very* TRUE.  And GOOD RIDDANCE to all such putrid rubbish!!
> But while we're waiting for that happy and welcome day to arrive,
> case-by-case, there's THIS ---
>
> Previous post follows:
>

Most of us fail to understand why anyone would want to engage in 
homosexual activity. To the average person, the very idea is 
either puzzling or repugnant. Indeed, a recent survey (1) 
indicated that only 14% of men and 10% of women imagined that 
such behavior could hold any "possibility of enjoyment."

The peculiar nature of homosexual desire has led some people to 
conclude that this urge must be innate: that a certain number of 
people are "born that way," that sexual preferences cannot be 
changed or even ended. What does the best research really 
indicate? Are homosexual proclivities natural or irresistible?

At least three answers seem possible. The first, the answer of 
tradition, is as follows: homosexual behavior is a bad habit 
that people fall into because they are sexually permissive and 
experimental. This view holds rat homosexuals choose their 
lifestyle as the result of self-indulgence and an unwillingness 
to play by society rules. The second position is held by a 
number of psychoanalysts (e.g., Bieber, Socarides). According to 
them, homosexual behavior is a mental illness, symptomatic of 
arrested development. They believe that homosexuals have 
unnatural or perverse desires as a consequence of poor familial 
relations in childhood or some other trauma. The third view is 
"biological" and holds that such desires are genetic or hormonal 
in origin, and that there is no choice involved and no 
"childhood trauma" necessary.

Which of these views is most consistent with the facts? Which 
tells us the most about homosexual behavior and its origins? The 
answer seems to be that homosexual behavior is learned. The 
following seven lines of evidence support such a conclusion.

1) No researcher has found provable biological or genitic 
differences between heterosexuals and homosexuals that weren't 
caused by their behavior
Occasionally you may read about a scientific study that suggests 
that homosexuality is an inherited tendency, but such studies 
have usually been discounted after careful scrutiny or attempts 
at replication. No one has found a single heredible genetic, 
hormonal or physical difference between heterosexuals and 
homosexuals - at least none that is replicable. (9, 12) While 
the absence of such a discovery doesn't prove at inherited 
sexual tendencies aren't possible, it suggests that none has 
been found because none exists.

2) People tend to believe that their sexual desires and 
behaviors are learned
Two large studies asked homosexual respondents to explain the 
origins of their desires and behaviors - how they "got that 
way." The first of these studies was conducted by Kinsey in the 
1940s and involved 1700 homosexuals. The second, in 1970, (4) 
involved 979 homosexuals. Both were conducted prior to the 
period when the "gay rights" movement started to politicize the 
issue of homosexual origins. Both reported essentially the same 
findings: Homosexuals overwhelmingly believed their feelings and 
behavior were the result of social or environmental influences.

In a 1983 study conducted by the Family Research Institute (5) 
(FRI) involving a random sample of 147 homosexuals, 35% said 
their sexual desires were hereditary. Interestingly, almost 80% 
of the 3,400 heterosexuals in the same study said that their 
preferences and behavior were learned (see Table 1 below).

Table 1
Reasons For Preferring:
homosexuality (1940s and 1970)

early homosexual experience(s) with adults and/or peers - 22%
homosexual friends/ around homosexuals a lot - 16%
poor relationship with mother - 15%
unusual development (was a sissy, artistic, couldn't get along 
with own sex, tom-boy, et cetera) - 15%
poor relationship with father - 14%
heterosexual partners unavailable - 12%
social ineptitude - 9%
born that way - 9%
heterosexuality (1983)

I was around heterosexuals a lot - 39%
society teaches heterosexuality and I responded - 34%
born that way - 22%
my parents, marriage was so good I wanted to have what they had -
 21%
I tried it and liked it - 12%
childhood heterosexual experiences with peers it was the ''in 
thing" in my crowd - 9%
I was seduced by a heterosexual adult - 5%
While these results aren't conclusive, they tell something about 
the very recent tendency to believe that homosexual behavior is 
inherited or biologic. From the 1930s (when Kinsey started 
collecting data) to the early 1970s, before a "politically 
correct" answer emerged, only about 10% of homosexuals claimed 
they were "born that way." Heterosexuals apparently continue to 
believe that their behavior is primarily a result of social 
conditioning.

3) Older homosexuals often approach the young
There is evidence that homosexuality, like drug use is "handed 
down" from older individuals. The first homosexual encounter is 
usually initiated by an older person. In separate studies 60%, 
(6) 64%, (3) and 61% (10) of the respondents claimed that their 
first partner was someone older who initiated the sexual 
experience.

How this happens is suggested by a nationwide random study from 
Britain: (17) 35% of boys and 9% of girl said they were 
approached for sex by adult homosexuals. Whether for attention, 
curiosity, or by force, 2% of the boys and 1% of the girls 
succumbed. In the US, (1) 37% of males and 9% of females 
reported having been approached for homosexual sex (65% of those 
doing the inviting were older). Likewise, a study of over 400 
London teenagers reported that "for the boys, their first 
homosexual experience was very likely with someone older: half 
the boys' first partner were 20 or older; for girls it was 43 
percent." (13) A quarter of homosexuals have admitted to sex 
with children and underaged teens, (6,5,8) suggesting the 
homosexuality is introduced to youngsters the same way other 
behaviors are learned - by experience.

4) Early homosexual experiences influence adult patterns of 
behavior
In the 1980s, scholars (12) examined the early Kinsey data to 
determine whether or not childhood sexual experiences predicted 
adult behavior. The results were significant: Homosexual 
experience in the early year, particularly if it was one's first 
sexual experience - was a strong predictor of adult homosexual 
behavior, both for males and females. A similar pattern appeared 
in the 1970 Kinsey Institute (4) study: there was a strong 
relationship between those whose first experience was homosexual 
and those who practiced homosexuality in later life. In the FRI 
study (5) two-thirds of the boys whose first experience was 
homosexual engaged in homosexual behavior as adults; 95% of 
those whose first experience was heterosexual were likewise 
heterosexual in their adult behavior. A similarly progressive 
pattern of sexual behavior was reported for females.

It is remarkable that the three largest empirical studies of the 
question showed essentially the same pattern. A child's first 
sexual experiences were strongly associated with his or her 
adult behavior.

5) Sexual conduct is influenced by cultural factors - especially 
religious convictions
Kinsey reported "less homosexual activity among devout groups 
whether they be Protestant, Catholic, or Jewish, and more 
homosexual activity among religiously less active groups." (2) 
The 1983 FRI study found those raised in irreligious homes to be 
over 4 times more likely to become homosexual than those from 
devout homes. These studies suggest that when people believe 
strongly that homosexual behavior is immoral, they are 
significantly less apt to be involved in such activity.

Recently, because of the AIDS epidemic, it has been discovered 
that, relative to white males, twice as many black males are 
homosexual (14) and 4 times as many are bisexual. Perhaps it is 
related to the fact that 62% of black versus 17% of white 
children are being raised in fatherless homes. But even the 
worst racist wouldn't suggest that it is due to genetic 
predisposition.

Were homosexual impulses truly inherited, we should be unable to 
find differences in homosexual practice due to religious 
upbringing or racial sub-culture.

6) Many change their sexual preferences
In a large random sample (5) 88% of women currently claiming 
lesbian attraction and 73% of men claiming to currently enjoy 
homosexual sex, said that they had been sexually aroused by the 
opposite sex,

85% of these "lesbians" and 54% of these "homosexuals" reported 
sexual relations with someone of the opposite sex in adulthood,
67% of lesbians and 54% of homosexuals reported current sexual 
attraction to the opposite sex, and
82% of lesbians and 66% of homosexuals reported having been in 
love with a member of the opposite sex.
Homosexuals experiment. They feel some normal impulses. Most 
have been sexually aroused by, had sexual relations with, and 
even fallen in love with someone of the opposite sex.

Nationwide random samples (11) of 904 men were asked about their 
sex lives since age 21, and more specifically, in the last year. 
As the figure reveals, 1.3% reported sex with men in the past 
year and 5.2% at some time in adulthood. Less than 1% of men had 
only had sex with men during their lives. And 6 of every 7 who 
had had sex with men, also reported sex with women.

It's a much different story with inherited characteristics. Race 
and gender are not optional lifestyles. They remain immutable. 
The switching and experimentation demonstrated in these two 
studies identifies homosexuality as a preference, not an 
inevitability.


7) There are many ex-homosexuals
Many engage in one or two homosexual experiences and never do it 
again�a pattern reported for a third of the males with 
homosexual experience in one study. (1) And then there are ex-
homosexuals - those who have continued in homosexual liaisons 
for a number of years and then chose to change not only their 
habits, but also the object of their desire. Sometimes this 
alteration occurs as the result of psychotherapy; (10) in others 
it is prompted by a religious or spiritual conversion. (18) 
Similar to the kinds of "cures" achieved by drug addicts and 
alcoholics, these treatments do not always remove homosexual 
desire or temptation. Whatever the mechanism, in a 1984 study 
(5) almost 2% of heterosexuals reported that at one time they 
considered themselves to be homosexual. It is clear that a 
substantial number of people are reconsidering their sexual 
preferences at any given time.

What causes homosexual desire?
If homosexual impulses are not inherited, what kinds of 
influences do cause strong homosexual desires? No one answer is 
acceptable to all researchers in the field. Important factors, 
however, seem to fall into four categories. As with so many 
other odd sexual proclivities, males appear especially 
susceptible:

1. Homosexual experience:
any homosexual experience in childhood, especially if it is a 
first sexual experience or with an adult
any homosexual contact with an adult, particularly with a 
relative or authority figure (in a random survey, 5% of adult 
homosexuals vs 0.8% of heterosexuals reported childhood sexual 
involvements with elementary or secondary school teachers (5).
2. Family abnormality, including the following:
a dominant, possessive, or rejecting mother
an absent, distant, or rejecting father
a parent with homosexual proclivities, particularly one who 
molests a child of the same sex
a sibling with homosexual tendencies, particularly one who 
molests a brother or sister
the lack of a religious home environment
divorce, which often leads to sexual problems for both the 
children and the adults
parents who model unconventional sex roles condoning 
homosexuality as a legitimate lifestyle� welcoming homosexuals 
(e.g., co-workers, friends) into the family circle
3. Unusual sexual experience, particularly in early childhood:
precocious or excessive masturbation
exposure to pornography in childhood
depersonalized sex (e.g., group sex, sex with animals)
or girls, sexual interaction with adult males
4. Cultural influences:
a visible and socially approved homosexual sub-culture that 
invites curiosity and encourages exploration
pro-homosexual sex education
openly homosexual authority figures, such as teachers (4% of 
Kinsey's and 4% of FRI's gays reported that their first 
homosexual experience was with a teacher)
societal and legal toleration of homosexual acts
depictions of homosexuality as normal and/or desirable behavior
Can homosexuality be changed?
Certainly. As noted above, many people have turned away from 
homosexuality - almost as many people call themselves "gay."

Clearly the easier problem to eliminate is homosexual behavior. 
Just as many heterosexuals control their desires to engage in 
premarital or extramarital sex, so some with homosexual desires 
discipline themselves to abstain from homosexual contact.

One thing seems to stand out: Associations are all-important. 
Anyone who wants to abstain from homosexual behavior should 
avoid the company of practicing homosexuals. There are 
organizations including "ex-gay ministries, " (18) designed to 
help those who wish to reform their conduct. Psychotherapy 
claims about a 30% cure rate, and religious commitment seems to 
be the most helpful factor in avoiding homosexual habits.

By Paul Cameron, Ph. D.
Dr. Cameron is Chariman of the Family Research Institute of 
Colorado Springs, Colorado USA.