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Article #1088Re: Bashford says: Ozone confuses me.
From: Kym Horsell
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 00:00
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 00:00
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In article <5ehhfr$ich$3@coffee.DIALix.COM>, Greig Ebeling <eggsoft@sydney.dialix.oz.au> wrote: >Jay Hanson <jhanson@ilhawaii.net> wrote: > >>NASA reports that: >>----------------- >>In the paper, Herman finds that annual average UV-B exposure has >>increased by 6.8 percent per decade at 55 degrees north latitude, >>----------------- > >>Now please show me that an increase of 6.8 % per year is >>a "natural variation". > >I did not say it was anatural variation, I said the amount is small >compared to natural variations. Please cite your references. ;-) >And I still don;t think the Herman et al figure has anything to do >with UV-B EXPOSURE. Surely this can't be an appeal to your own authority in this area? I was under the impression that a small increase in UV variation was believed to result in a dis-proportionate increase in skin cancers (e.g.), one metric of "exposure". For a more detailed data on UV irradiation vs absorbed dose, see (e.g.) <http://www.ciesin.org/docs/001-503/001-503.html>. For a reference to any other claims Mr Ebeling may object to, I refer to (e.g.) <http://www.nas.nasa.gov/NAS/Education/TeacherWork/Ozone/UV.radiation.html> which, in summary, claims: "A 1%decrease in the ozone layer will cause a estimated 2%increase in UV-B irradiation; it is estimated that this will lead to a 4%increase in basal carcinomas and 6%increase in squamous-cell carcinomas.[Graedel&Crutzen]. 90% of the skin carcinomas are attributed to UV-B exposure [Wayne] and the chemical mechanism by which it causes skin cancer has been identified [Tevini]. The above named carcinomas are relatively easy to treat, if detected in time, and are rarely fatal. But the much more dangerous malignant melanoma is not as well understood. " No doubt this will be seen to fall under the heading "mere speculation". -- R. Kym Horsell KHorsell@EE.Latrobe.EDU.AU kym@CS.Binghamton.EDU http://WWW.EE.LaTrobe.EDU.AU/~khorsell http://CS.Binghamton.EDU/~kym
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fb58e,a7a84d47f994444 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb58e,public X-Google-Thread: fdaee,a7a84d47f994444 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdaee,public X-Google-Thread: 10c480,a7a84d47f994444 X-Google-Attributes: gid10c480,public X-Google-Thread: 10607c,a7a84d47f994444 X-Google-Attributes: gid10607c,public X-Google-Thread: 10df0c,a7a84d47f994444 X-Google-Attributes: gid10df0c,public From: khorsell@ee.latrobe.edu.au (Kym Horsell) Subject: Re: Bashford says: Ozone confuses me. Date: 1997/02/21 Message-ID: <5ejb95$p08@laplace.ee.latrobe.edu.au> X-Deja-AN: 220330000 References: <5cr1ob$1rl$1@coffee.DIALix.COM> <5eepj0$e0o$9@coffee.DIALix.COM> <330B373E.1EE9@ilhawaii.net> <5ehhfr$ich$3@coffee.DIALix.COM> Organization: School of Electronic Engineering, La Trobe University Newsgroups: talk.environment,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.environment.conservation,aus.environment.misc