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Re: Growth - America's Greatest Problem ( Frosty Wooldridge )

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From: Ted
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 02:26
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On Jan 25, 4:23 pm, jazzerci...@hotmail.com (-) wrote:
> http://www.rense.com/general80/great.htm
>
> Growth - America's Greatest Problem
> By Frosty Wooldridge
> 1-25-8
>
> In a three part interview, I found myself astounded by author Michael
> Folkerth's book: "THE BIGGEST LIE EVER BELIEVED." He epitomizes a humorous
> economist and the "King of Simple."
>
> His book presents irrefutable logic that this nation cannot continue growing
> for the long term. We must face the facts of our limited continent. We must
> come to terms with not being able to extract five quarts of water out of a one
> gallon jug!
>
> "I constantly attempt to create analogies that represent our system of ever
> expanding economic growth and the impossibility of continuing the same,"
> Folkerth said. "Growth is not the answer; it's the problem.
>
> "I have been a guest speaker on many national radio programs, and relate well
> to the expression 'carrying capacity' that erupts in the media from time to
> time."
>
> Carrying capacity
>
> Folkerth continued, "My experience with the term "carrying capacity" is that
> of western ranches. Having owned and sold ranches in Western Colorado for many
> years, the first question that a perspective buyer will ask is, "What's the
> carrying capacity?"
>
> "In the instance of a ranch, "carrying capacity" refers to the number of
> cattle that the resources of the ranch will support on a year around basis.
>
> "Say that number was 200 head of mother cows and their offspring. That means
> the feed, water, landmass, and handling facilities will support these numbers
> as a contained unit.
>
> "Now say that we add 50 mother cows to the mix without expanding our holdings.
> What would happen? You may think that 50 cows and calves would starve, but
> that isn't true. All of the cows and calves would starve ­ as would the ranch
> owners!
>
> All of the cows and calves would starve ­ as would the ranch owners
>
> "Here's why. As the cattle eat the feed, they will do so as a unit, each
> satisfying their necessary intake of hay. In our example, we added 50 cows or
> 25 percent more than the carrying capacity. Therefore all of the cattle will
> eat their fill for 75 percent of the year or nine months.
>
> "During these nine months, everything would appear to be going fine and the
> cattle would be fat and healthy. However, come the 10th month, feed wouldn't
> slowly diminish; it would be totally absent, having consumed 100 percent of
> carrying capacity in the first nine months. The cattle would now all be
> without feed and all would starve. The rancher, now with 250 dead cows and
> calves, would also be ruined.
>
> Growing ourselves into the same fate
>
> "So why as humans can we not see the very real fact that we are grooming
> ourselves for the same fate? We have finite resources, but continue to expand
> infinitely. I promise you that it is no different than the above example of
> the cows.
>
> "The U.S. grows our population exponentially each year with legal, and ignored
> illegal immigration ­ as a means of maintaining our consumption based economy,
> but our land and resources remain the same size. It won't work.
>
> Examples abound ­ but we don't listen
>
> "As an example of the pending resource depletion, we now find ourselves having
> to import 75 percent of our oil from foreign nations (the U.S . hit peak oil
> in 1970) and we borrow some $3 Billion per day from the Chinese, Japanese,
> East Indians, Arab nations, and others, to keep our false economy alive."
>
> "We import some $700 billion more in products than we export. We also suffer
> the second largest untaxed underground economy in the world that sends $80
> billion in cash transfers back to home countries, annually. We pay over $400
> million daily for interest on our $9 trillion federal debt.
>
> "As the remainder of the developing world consumes resources at ever greater
> rates, the U.S. position will continue to weaken," Folkerth said. "Americans
> represent approximately 4.8 percent of world population and consume some 25
> percent of global fuel and 30 percent of world materials.
>
> What about the other 95.2 percent of the folks on earth
>
> "The other 95.2 percent of the folks on earth now want their fair share and
> often, their sovereign owned, natural resources. Do the math! If China alone
> consumed at the same rate as Americans, there would be no resources left on
> earth for any other country.
>
> "The cornerstone of the U.S. economy is growth. More people, more consumption,
> more imported goods, is the premise under which we operate. After digesting
> the above information; how long do you think our economic growth model will
> work going forward? Scary, huh?"
>
> Folkerth has a powerful message ­ GROWTH is the problem
>
> Reading Folkerth's book provides a foundation for a new awakening for the
> United States. He said, "We must move to a more sustainable economic model.
> Growth is not the answer, it remains the problem."
>
> You may use the 'carrying capacity' model for a ranch or city or state or
> country. Better yet, you can use it for our finite globe. It does not fail in
> the final analysis. The failure comes from a finite piece of land being
> overwhelmed by any species past the 'carrying capacity.' You've heard of deer
> populations crashing. Even today, human populations crash or live in
> unheard-of misery all over the planet. For the United States, it's only a
> matter of time and growth.
>
> "Growth" proves the most dangerous word of the 21st century.
>
> "This is about the future of our country, our kids and grandkids. We the
> people have to rise up to make sure things get changed." David M. Walker,
> Comptroller General of the United States of America made this statement on "60
> Minutes" March 4, 2007.
>
> "THE BIGGEST LIE EVER TOLD"
> Author: Mike Folkerth
> ISBN # 0-9779965-3-0
> Publisher: Lifetime Chronicle Press
> Available: <http://www.kingofsimple.com/>www.kingofsimple.com
> Price: $13.95 includes shipping
>
> Listen to Frosty Wooldridge on Tuesdays and Thursdays as he interviews top
> national leaders on his radio show "Connecting the Dots" at
> <blocked::blocked::http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/>www.republicbroadcasting.org
> at 6:00 PM Mountain Time. Adjust tuning in to your time zone.
>
> Take action:
> <blocked::blocked::http://www.thesocialcontract.com/>www.thesocialcontract.com
> ; <blocked::blocked::http://www.numbersusa.com/>www.numbersusa.com;
> <blocked::blocked::http://www.fairus.org/>www.fairus.org;
> <blocked::blocked::http://www.firecoalition.com/>www.firecoalition.com;
> <blocked::blocked::http://www.alipac.us/>www.alipac.us;
> <blocked::blocked::http://www.capsweb.org/>www.capsweb.org;
> <blocked::blocked::http://www.vdare.com/>www.vdare.com;
> <blocked::blocked::http://www.immigrationcounters.com/>www.immigrationcounters.com
> ; <blocked::blocked::http://www.proenglish.org/>www.proenglish.org;
> <http://www.patriotunion.org/>www.patriotunion.org;
> <http://www.safeamericaact.com/>www.SafeAmericaAct.com;
> <blocked::blocked::http://www.cairco.org/>www.cairco.org;
> <blocked::blocked::http://www.politicaltruthandfact.com/>www.politicaltruthandfact.com
> ;
> <blocked::blocked::http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/>WWW.immigrationshumancost.org
> ; <blocked::blocked::http://www.limitstogrowth.org/>www.limitstogrowth.org
>
> Frosty Wooldridge has bicycled across six continents ­ from the Arctic to the
> South Pole ­ as well as six times across the USA, coast to coast and border to
> border. In 2005, he bicycled from the Arctic Circle, Norway to Athens, Greece.
> He presents "The Coming Population Crisis in America: and what you can do
> about it" to civic clubs, church groups, high schools and colleges.  He works
> to bring about sensible world population balance at his website
> <blocked::blocked::http://www.frostywooldridge.com/>www.frostywooldridge.com
>
> 2008 Frosty Wooldridge -
>
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