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Re: Bush Opens Roadless Tongass National Forest to Logging

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From: SMITH29
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:52
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maguahiker@gmail.com wrote:
>> xxxx
>> So you would be happy without wood products ?
>>
>>> Unfortunately now that we are in the picture. It is far more difficult
>>> to justify allowing her to run her coarse. Essentially it is a
>>> Catch-22. No one will win.
>> xxxx
>> Our forest programs have been working as well as our game management
>> programs.
>> Visit a forest and a game farm and see for yourself.
>> The one think you don't mention is nature is chaos and we instill some
>> order to our natural resources.
>>
>> 29
>>
>>
> 
> 
> I think I was making a generalized statement and not attacking any
> particular post here so don't take it personally. Nature isn't
> chaos...it is nature. Natural. Forest fires do things management
> cannot...many tree diseases have been controlled through naturally
> occuring forest fires. They provide a entirely different humus and
> base for items to grow that cannot be found otherwise. It provides
> ideal heating and condtions to allow for various seedlings and spores
> to begin growth. This cannot me done with management entirely. There
> are things that occur in nature that we cannot no matter how hard we
> try scientifically, we cannot make them occur to the large extent
> needed for forests to actually survive. I have been to many a
> management farm, lake, etc..I see the good work they provide. I simply
> don't think they can do it all and they sure aren't properly funded to
> do what they fully need to try and do.
> 
> Man has always used wood products and always will. But it was a matter
> of using what you need and not to excess. It is simply how efficient
> they use them. If we would do it by industry standards...hell they
> would clear cut from shore to shore without using any sense of ethics
> or rationale. I understand the concept of management and very much am
> interested in the science of expanding the possibilities of restoring
> what little order and allowing some control for environmental
> concerns. I am simply stating that trees and nature were here far
> before we were and we can't expect to even for a moment believe that
> we will instill some order to nature. We don't control it. We live
> with it. there is a difference that a ton in the industry don't
> realize.
xxxx
You smokin weed!!!
> 
> like I said. It is a catch-22. You're damned if you do and damned if
> you don't. No one is winning this game. I just look at past examples
> like Chernobyl area...man devistated it and although it is highly
> damaged from the incident...if you look at reports now...nature has
> gradually reclaimed the land, the buildings, the area...animals
> return...etc.
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