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Article #1331Re: Sacramento
From: Dano
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 21:00
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 21:00
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"Jack May" <jack.may@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<r81Mc.143576$a24.94703@attbi_s03>... [snip] > Oh you mean like all those 200,000 pound light rails carrying a couple of > people most of the time. Not exactly an environmental solution. Even the > MTC said funding more transit under one court order in the Bay Area would > probably increase pollution > > To believe that just because it is not a car, it must be environmentally > better is unlikely to be true. That belief is just car hatred and not > science. [snip] This statement is only very partially, in the narrowest sense, true. I lived in Sac for 14 years. As for most things, simplistic statements rarely accurately quantify the issue. The light rail (LR)system in Sac, for a number of reasons, doesn't work very well. For one thing, political decisions, for example, located a Home Depot next to a LR terminal. Why? Short-sightedness, among other things. Cumulative decisions like this one, including many developer-incented decisions, make LR development problematic in, say, the North Natomas basin. The original plan in North Natomas had many more facilities and design options for public transit [including transportation to the airport]. Most of these things got eaten away in negotiations with developers. > > How are they going to get to the light rail? Car-crazy statements only > show a lack of understanding of why people choose transportation modes that > meet their needs. People don't use transit because it is not a solution to > the needs of those people. It has nothing to do with "car-crazy" and > everything to do with a failed transportation mode. Yes. As I said, LR in Sac is not located adjacent to things that users would use LR for. The open space around stations was not mandated to develop grocery stores, retail, restaurants, offices, apartments, single-family at sufficient density [e.g. 6+ du/ac], etc. [nor is infill directed toward developing these uses]. Check it out. The MODE has not failed, policy-makers have failed to secure proper development adjacent to LR stations. Reading Cervero's latest can enlighten folks on this subject. D
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