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Article #1917Re: Too many people crammed in fast-dwindling spaces
From: stvfrmco
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:24
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:24
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Tiny Human Ferret wrote: > stvfrmco wrote: > >> MrPepper11 wrote: >> >>> "Neither Bush nor Kerry has a word to say on the matter..." >>> >>> August 11, 2004 >>> >>> Froma Harrop / Syndicated columnist >>> Too many people crammed in fast-dwindling spaces >>> RIVERSIDE, Calif. � Richard Nixon was born 22 miles from this >>> historic, graceful city. As president and a Southern Californian, >>> Nixon saw the threat posed by a rapidly growing population. He warned >>> Congress in 1969 that if America continued to expand at current rates, >>> the nation's "social supplies � the capacity to educate youth, to >>> provide privacy and living space, to maintain the processes of open, >>> democratic government � may be grievously strained." >>> >>> It's probably just as well that Nixon isn't around to see what has >>> happened since. The population of California has grown 70 percent. >>> Here in Riverside County, it has tripled. And the Riverside-San >>> Bernardino area ranks No. 1 in Smart Growth America's sprawl index. >>> The Southern California Association of Governments expects the region >>> to add 1.56 million people between 2000 and 2020 >> >> >> >> I'd imagine they added that many people between 2000 and 2004. I'll >> assume this is a typo and they meant 15.6 million. >> >>> � rivaling the growth >>> expected for all of Georgia or Washington state. >>> >> <snip> >> >>> >>> Whether they call themselves conservative, liberal or other, Southern >>> Californians generally subscribe to a strong environmental ethic. >> >> >> >> ROFLMAO! Who writes this stuff? Southern California is a monument to >> the "growth is good" corrupt government and a sort of Peter Principal >> of urban "planning" that has held that urban sprawl and bigger, wider >> freeways are the solution to an ever-growing population. Saying >> Southern Californians subscribe to a strong environmental ethic is >> like saying that the Pope supports birth control and family planning. >> Thanks for the laugh! > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47930-2004Aug7.html > > That's the URL for a truly excellent series on why Sprawl is a beast on > a rampage, as it were, in the Washington DC region. > > Despite the left-leaning and pro-environmentalism plaints of the local > governments, they consistently promote the building of far more office > space than housing, leading to hours long commutes, occasionally from > two states away. Yes, there are people who live in West Virginia and > Pennsylvania, who regularly commute to, or quite near to, the District > of Columbia. > > > > Thanks for the URL, Mr. Ferret. Here in Colorado, people are commuting from Laramie and Cheyenne, Wyoming to Denver. They can buy houses in Wyoming for a fraction of what they'd pay in the Denver metro area and avoid the diversity that is being shoved down our throats in Colorado. Wyoming looks like Colorado did 50 years ago both demographically and in terms of environmental quality. It has fewer than half a million people.
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