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"Amos Keppler" <amoskeppler@rk.com> wrote in message
news:3DD8D681.76C6C4CE@rk.com...
> "James A. Donald" wrote:
>
> >     --
> > On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 05:04:51 +0100, Amos Keppler
> > <amoskeppler@rk.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >  The Weekly Report
> > >
> > >   WEEK 46 Nov 4th to 10th 2002
> > >
> > >  http://www.midnight-fire.net/theweeklyreport/theweeklyreport
> > >  .html
> > >
> > >   THE SNOW ON KILIMANJARO
> > >
> > >   The characteristic snowcap has always been there, a mirage
> > >   in the hot,
> > > tropical climate on the plains below.
> > >   Now, new, shocking revelations say that the snow on
> > >   Kilimanjaro is
> > > melting so fast it will soon be gone.
> >
> > Bullshit.
> >
> > http://www.geo.umass.edu/climate/tanzania/synopsis.html
> >
> > The same phenomenom, and about the same amount of snow cover,
> > was reported in the 1880s.
> >
>
>  Bullshit.
>
>  You're giving the word shortsightedness.a new, profound meaning...
>
>  It was a temporary phenomenon then. It isn't now.
>  Then the ice all over the planet wasn't meling. It is, now.
>  See WARMING WORLD ON THIN ICE elsewhere in this newsgroup
>  (among literally thousands of reports, coming from all over the planet)
>
>  Amos the Witch

How can you distinguish the temporary effects of global warming in the
middle of a global warming trend? I do not dispute global warming, what I
question is the permanance of it. In the middle of the 1880s when the snow
on Kilimanjaro was melting, do you suppose the same concerns (of course,
scientific limitations notwithstanding) of global warming could have been
raised, only to be dispelled a decade later when the warming trends stopped.

There are many factors to consider in global warming, several of which are
natural phenomena. How do you _know_ that we are not merely experiencing yet
another convergence of temporary phenomena, similar to what happened in the
1880s? How do we _know_ that mankind hasn't merely aggravated the natural
phenomena with out spewing of tailpipe emissions, and if those eimssions
were completely eliminated, we would still have the issue of natural
phenomena to deal with?

Just as there is science that points to manmade problems, there are equally
storng and valid scientific data to point to natural causes for global
warming. There is extensive scientific data to show that the planet has
undergone much more dramatic episodes of global warming, long before there
was an industrial society, indeed the episodes were taking place more than
10,000 years ago when there was very little society, let alone an industrial
one.