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Article #1997Re: WARNING! "John Smith"/"LunaTree": Anti-environmental Propagandists
From: old hippy
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 00:00
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 00:00
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hey i read the same thing about this chive person in another ng think it was aoef or one of them "Chive Mynde" <chyveminde@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:90fe7m$ap1$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > In article <90endn$q70$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, > Chive Mynde <chyveminde@my-deja.com> wrote: > > Environmental Propgandists: > > > > john smith <john@gilanet.com> > > lunatree <lunatree@my-deja.com> > > > > TACTICS: > > > > Debunkers and Propaganda: The Black Art of the Information Age > > > > Propaganda...becomes at last more credible to its disseminators than > to > > its targets ---Garry Willis > > > > The essence of propaganda is the presentation of one side of the > > picture only, the deliberate limitation of free thought and question. > > --- J.A.C. Brown > > > > Propaganda by its very nature is an enterprise for perverting the > > significance of events and of insinuating false intentions...The > > propagandist must insist on the purity of his own intentions and, at > > the same time, hurl accusations at his enemy. > > --- Jacques Ellul > > > > Propaganda has only one object: to conquer the masses. Every means > > that furthers this aim is good; every means that hinders it is bad > > --- Joesph Goebbels > > > > The first documented use of the term propaganda occurred in 1622 when > > Pope Gregory XV established the Sacra Congregatio de Propaganda Fide > as > > a means of coordinating efforts at creating voluntary acceptance of > > church doctrines. It eventually superseded the Inquisition as the > means > > of choice in the creation of acceptance of doctrine. > > > > The term Propaganda has had various connotations since then (both > > positive and negative) but has come generally to mean "suggestion or > > influence through the manipulation of symbols and the psychology of > the > > individual". > > > > Propaganda (in the sell mode) is communication with the ultimate goal > > of having the recipient come to "voluntarily" accept a position or set > > of ideas as if it were his own. > > > > In the attack mode it is a communication with the ultimate goal of > > having the recipient reject the position of a targeted third party > > (e.g. a competitor) or reject the third party's set of ideas. > > > > The mechanics of propaganda are separate from the morality of > > propaganda and it's use. A "bad" group or organization can be quite > > effective at it, and a "good" group or organization can be ineffective > > at it. > > > > You can say that fact of using propaganda methods itself is "good" > > or "bad" but that doesn't change the fact that you are the recipient > of > > loads of propaganda every week, unless you live on Neptune. Once a > > person grasps the basics they will notice that propaganda is rampant > > and is in use everywhere from everyday conversations at work to > > national debates and political campaigns. > > > > This draft is a partial compendium of common propaganda methods. Most > > are shown in their negative (or attack) mode for clarity even though > > most can be used in their positive (or sell) mode. > > > > Most are generally used in conjunction with others or blended with > > others, and sometimes it can be hard to tell where one ends and > another > > starts. All can and do have variations and spin-offs. All can be > either > > subtle or blatant, and most all can be used in all the > > various "approaches" mentioned in section two. > > > > Many are too "strong" to be useful in selling soap, and would be > > reserved for wars and other very highly charged debates (or greatly > > toned down). You can often determine the level of emotional risk > taking > > and commitment or charge' in a debate by how strong the measures they > > use are. > > > > These are presented in no particular order. Please e-mail me if you > > have identified one to include, or if you spot where I have failed to > > stay "issue neutral" as is my goal. > > > > Section 1, Methods (are broad, as compared to the more > > narrow "approach" see section 2): > > > > Method 1. Devaluing a source (generally used on a source contrary to > > ones own sphere of intent). > > > > 1A. The strait Ad Hominem: An attempt to establish the lack of > > value of data by establishing a lack of value in or of the source of > > the data. Such as " Joe is a lawyer, what would he know about > > disease?". Other possible important information often is omitted i.e. > > Joe may also be a Doctor, or Joe may have a disease (and know a lot > > about it ). The positive (sell) mode would be "listen to MJ, he's cool > > and MUST know about briefs (or Wheaties)". > > > > 1B. The so called "Dead Agent" ploy (first named by a former OAS > > section chief for its almost invariable result - a Dead Agent): The > > insertion into the data stream of information that is calculated > > to "prove" to an Agents control (the public in the case of PR) that > the > > agent has been co-opted or "turned" and is now a double agent, when > > this is not the fact. > > > > 1C. The "Crazy Agent" variation (to 1B): Convince the agents control > > that his agent has gone "round the bend". This has the added advantage > > of invalidating much (if not all) of the agents prior > > intelligence, since the control can not be certain when the agent > > started "losing it". Paranoia and schizophrenia being common in > > the "spy" game, this has often had rave results. > > > > 1D. The "Irrefutable counter-source": AKA "appeal to authority" - If > > Einstein said it, it must be true (even though it might have been a > > comment about laundry soap, a subject Albert may not have been expert > > on). Often used with "context shifting" (see below). > > > > 1E. The "Dirty Towel": If your target is above reproach, sometimes you > > can hang a "dirty towel" around his neck by devaluing his associates > or > > even family. This is a favorite in politics and is often used when > you > > don't want the target to fathom where the attack is coming from. > > > > 1F. The "Stone Bucket": Figuratively you tie a bucket around your > > targets neck (and tie his hands) then you put him in a pond and toss > > rocks at the bucket, based on an old Celtic form of torture. > > > > For example you expose that a political opponent is a > > closet bigot (the bucket). While this doesn't sink him at first, since > > he (of course) denies it, it gives you a wonderful place to aim rocks > > (sound bites) at. One of the best rocks would be the "Knife in the > back > > defense" where you state that you think the press's rumor mongering > > about the alleged' bigotry is a sad commentary on our system. Each > time > > you (or the press) say the word bigot it's another rock. It works best > > if the data establishing the bucket is true, (but this is not > required). > > > > 1G. Bait and Badger: One of the older forms, the general idea is to > > have one of your "Disposable Agents" (see approach 4. below) badger, > > bait and harass the target into making a faux pas that the press snaps > > up. Getting the target to punch the disposable agent is considered a > > win. The (sell mode) positive end of this is the "shill" who asks only > > flattering questions etc. > > > > 1H. The "Ringer": Insert one or more "Disposable Agents" into your > > targets camp posing as friends (or at least kindred spirits) of the > > target. The agents can then use several ploys, a long time favorite is > > the "slippery slope" approach. > > > > Method 2. Devalue the Data (generally used on data from a source > > opposing your own). > > > > 2A. The "overwhump" (sometimes called the "shout-down"): This involves > > barraging the recipient with so much data, that the opposing data is > > drowned out. Imagine standing at a Hitler speech and shouting "Jews > > are OK" for an idea of this (well actually you might receive a 2B > > response). > > > > 2B. Actual or threatened violence: This is the oldest form of > > "conversion" and is still used in many parts of the world today > > although most propagandists today consider it unnecessarily messy. > Also > > it can easily backfire and do much PR damage to you. Use caution. > > > > Many people will devalue their own data when valuing it > > results in a vicious and heated attack as in 2A or 2B. But for some it > > will result in a digging in' mentality and actually have a reverse > > effect from what the propagandist desires. While 2A. and 2B. are the > > most common form of "street propaganda" they are usually performed by > > amateurs. A pro would be very aware of and allow for (and possibly > even > > use) this backfire syndrome'. > > > > 2C. The "Big Lie": Sadly misnamed this method works equally well > > whether the "big" is a lie or the truth. What it involves is > > introducing to the data stream data that is so broad, general and all > > encompassing that it is impossible to refute even though the recipient > > doesn't literally believe it. An example is "Nobody doesn't like Sara > > Lee". While in actual fact at least some people don't "like" Sara Lee > > (diabetics spring to mind), if you point this out your recipient will > > first react with "I know, but its only a slogan" and then sometimes > > question your motives in pointing it out. > > > > 2D. The "Little Lie": Also works with "True" as well. This involves > > creating a background piece by piece until everybody Knows (as in the > > 50's) "The Peaceful Atom is working For Us" and approves Atomic power > > plants left, right and center. > > > > 2E. "Blending": Putting a bit of false data into a "sound" data > stream, > > so that it goes undetected but slowly erodes the targets credibility > or > > position. > > > > 2F. "Positioning": A Madison Ave. favorite -You counter the target > data > > with "better" data (can even be true) and put one of your ads next to > > one of there's whenever and wherever possible. > > > > 2G. The "Poisoned Pill": You "slip" a hot bit of info to your target > > (he doesn't know it's from you), he uses it, but you have the "rest of > > the story" that you can later use to cook him. > > > > 2H. "Redefining Symbols": You all have seen this - Homosexual is > > to "harsh" - so it becomes "Gay" or it's not "harsh enough" and it > > becomes (well you know). To some "Pro choice" the opposition is > > now "Anti-choice" while to some "Pro life" the others are now "Pro > > abortion" or even "Pro-Death". This can be devastating if properly > > used, and is one of the most powerful tools in the propagandist's tool > > box. > > > > Section 2, Approaches: > > > > Approach 1. > > Straight "misdirection": Can take many forms, from > > outright lies to psycho-babble to even "controlled" truth. This is > only > > limited by the imagination of the propagandist, and is considered > > the "pepper" of propaganda. Basically if you don't want the recipient > > to look at "A" point him at "J" or "Y" or "K" and keep pointing. > > > > Approach 1A. > > The "Stalking Horse": You give your opposition > > something benign to see (and/or shoot at), all the > > while you are busy sneaking up from another direction unseen. > > > > Approach 2. > > "Context Shifting". An old standby, the "omitted > > qualifier" and the "omitted actual target" (made to look like A even > > though it was B) fit here. Actually limited only by how audaciously > the > > propagandist is willing to cut up and reissue the target's words. > > > > Approach 3. > > The "Rumor Tree": AKA the "Whisper Campaign". This approach had it's > > defining moment when William > > Randolph Hearst used his newspapers to kill Orson Wells' career by > > subtle implication that he refused to serve in the war and might even > > be a communist. The basic plan is: > > 1. start a rumor (preferably nasty) > > 2. water > > 3. watch it branch out and leaf in. > > > > Approach 4. > > The "Disposable Agent": AKA the "Strawman" An agent who does "work" > for > > you but can't be traced back to you and is expendable (this means > > different things in different arenas). The work can be either direct > > attack (or sell) or reversed (see #10 below). > > > > Approach 5. > > The "knife in the back defense": Someone asks "do you still beat your > > wife?" and the "defender" springs in with "I know he hasn't for years" > > (implying that you DID long ago, actually he hasn't seen you do it for > > years because you NEVER did). Get it? > > > > Approach 6. > > "Mindless repetition": The most vile thing can become > > benign if it is familiar enough. It's used with other approach's and > > is considered the "salt" of cooking with propaganda. > > > > Approach 7. > > "Guilt by association": If Target B is shown to > > "possibly" have been an SDS member ( or even better the L word, > whether > > TRUE or not) his "weight" will be lessened. > > > > Approach 8. > > Straight "ridicule": AKA The "humor bomb" You all know this one, its > > the old "when they handed out brains Fred thought they said trains, > and > > took the caboose". Use sparingly, or it can backfire. > > > > Approach 9. > > The "leading question": This is the old "Do you still beat your wife?" > > routine. A properly worded LQ has no win (for the target) connected > > with any answer. The really stellar ones don't "ripen" until hours or > > days after the target HAS answered them (Clinton's bane; Did you > > inhale? comes to mind). The last sentence points out that the LQ > > doesn't need to be actually asked it can be implied. It's the > > provocative answer that counts. > > > > Approach 10. > > The "Reverse": This is where you make it appear that > > your opponent (the target) is using "vicious attack propaganda" on > you, > > thereby generating a feeling of support for the underdog. Capable of > > spectacular results, but adventurous and not for the amateur. > > > > G.S. > > gos890@aol.com > > -- > > We are taught you must blame your father, your sisters, your brothers, > > the school, the teachers--you can blame anyone, but never blame > > yourself. It's never your fault. But it's ALWAYS your fault, because > if > > you wanted to change, you're the one who has got to change. It's as > > simple as that, isn't it? ~ Katharine Hepburn > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy. > > > > -- > -- > We are taught you must blame your father, your sisters, your brothers, > the school, > the teachers--you can blame anyone, but never blame yourself. It's > never your fault. > But it's ALWAYS your fault, because if you wanted to change, you're the > one who has > got to change. It's as simple as that, isn't it? ~ Katharine Hepburn > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fb58e,f2caa5bab7f629e8 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb58e,public X-Google-Thread: f44bc,9914d3c570f3f8d1 X-Google-Attributes: gidf44bc,public X-Google-Thread: 10df74,3c283f871e83d487 X-Google-Attributes: gid10df74,public From: "old hippy" <oldhippy@flowernet.com> Subject: Re: WARNING! "John Smith"/"LunaTree": Anti-environmental Propagandists Date: 2000/12/07 Message-ID: <3a305ea6.0@oracle.zianet.com> X-Deja-AN: 702428019 References: <90endn$q70$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <90fe7m$ap1$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 X-Complaints-To: news@nmix.net X-Trace: reader.nmix.net 976248290 63042 204.134.124.52 (8 Dec 2000 04:04:50 GMT) Organization: NMIX X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Reply-To: "old hippy" <oldhippy@flowernet.com> NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Dec 2000 04:04:50 GMT Newsgroups: talk.environment,ca.environment,sci.skeptic