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Tulay <vctm1@gte.net> wrote in message news:<3B71B3D8.D6B233BF@gte.net>...
> PeopleEater wrote:
> 
> > Walt Horning <whorning@pipeline.com> wrote in message news:<4g4slt47l6m44lj8it6js1io94ao3etfn3@4ax.com>...
> > > Environmentalists are mentally ill:
> > >
> > >  - they get a law passed to save gas by forcing car-makers to make
> > >    smaller, less safe cars causing more highway deaths
> > >
> > >       Burning less oil is more important than human lives?
> >
> > We've gone to war over oil. So yes, I guess it is.
> >
> > >
> > >  - they get a law passed to save endangered fish along some rivers and
> > >    the farmers cannot get water and are the ones now "endangered"
> > >
> > >       Fish are more important than humans?
> >
> > Endangered? How do you make that connection? Sure, farmers may get
> > stiffed, but I really doubt their jobs are more important than an
> > entire species. BTW, farmers' jobs have been endangered for the past
> > 50 or so years, ever since America started went from agriculture to
> > industry to a service based economy.
> 
> US farmers produce more food than any other farmer in the world. (And
> we do it with less farmers per acre.)

cite please. Personally, it seems rather unlikely to me, esp. since
agriculture is such a small sector of our ecnomy.

> > Fortunately for them, they get
> > massive government subsidies so they DON'T die out completely. If
> > anything, the biggest problem facing small farmers is corporatization.
> >
> > >
> > >       Its "OK" for the farmers to die instead?
> >
> > Yeah, because they'll all die from starvation or dehydration.
> 
> Then the rest of the people of the world will die also.

how so? The US doesn't feed the world.


> > >  - they get a laws passed to make it twice as expensive to produce
> > >    electricity in California and then cannot figure out how come they
> > >    cannot get any power or have to pay too much
> > >
> > >       Too many regulations are more important than humans?
> >
> > The environmentalists did this? I thought it was the energy companies
> > in conjunction with the state of California.
> >
> > >
> > >  - they do not want oil drilling in certain areas but ignore the fact
> > >    that if there is a shortage of heating oil, little babies could
> > >    freeze to death
> > >
> > >       Are a few Caribou are more important that babies?
> >
> > There is no shortage of oil. And even if there was, drilling the
> > Alaskan wildlife preserve would be absolutely useless since its got
> > about 6 months worth of oil anyways. Oil is more expensive now than it
> > was last year, but oh well. No need to destroy a wildlife preserve
> > because you were dumb enough to buy a gas-guzzling SUV.
> >
> > >
> > >  - they interfere with military target practice on deserted islands
> > >    and ignore the need for self-defense or a military force for
> > >    problems like Iraq
> > >
> > >       Are a few birds more important than national security?
> >
> > Self-defence? Hardly. I believe self-defence is defined as the act of
> > preventing an attacker from harming you. Last I recall, WE declared
> > war on Iraq.
> >
> > >
> > >  - they have always protested nuclear weapons, but only with weapons
> > >    of mass destruction is there a defense against more "Hitlers" in
> > >    this world
> > >
> > >       Are a few more holocausts what these mentally ill people want?
> >
> > We never used nuclear weapons against Hitler. If anything beat Hitler,
> > it was his own moronic invasion of the USSR.
> >
> > >
> > >       "The bomb" saved hundreds of thousands of US soldiers' lives
> > >       when Japan surrendered. (Granted, they could have bombed
> > >       military targets or some less populated area for an effective
> > >       demonstration to get them to surrender.)
> >
> > Yeah, I think it would have been better to actually bomb a military
> > target.
> 
> We did.
> 
> > Even the Japanese didn't attack a city. BTW, the Japanese were
> > willing to surrender on a condition that they keep their emperor.
> 
> They wanted him to "rule Japan" we made sure he didn't.
> 
> > As
> > you should know, the US doesn't do conditional surrenders, so we
> > bombed them instead to show we meant business. But guess what! They
> > still kept their emperor!
> 
> And he doesn't rule anything.....
> 
> >
> >
> > >
> > >  - they moan and groan about CO2 emission, when in fact more CO2 means
> > >    more green plants to counter the effect of CO2 and bring the amount
> > >    of CO2 back in "balance".
> > >
> > >       Are the deaths of millions of starving people worth it when
> > >       world economies fail due to excessive regulation?
> >
> > This is a rather startling leap of logic here. More planting of plants
> > will mean  more plants. Excessive CO2 emissions will only make it
> > harder for us to breath and go outside when its sunny. BTW, the
> > ecosystem was doing fine long before humans started pumping all this
> > co2 into the atmosphere.
> 
> There is no excess CO2

Thats not what the scientists say!

-pe