🚀 go-pugleaf

orfairbairn@earthlink.net (Orval Fairbairn) wrote in message news:<orfairbairn-1108011224270001@1cust133.tnt8.daytona-beach.fl.da.uu.net>...
> In article <719e2bbc.0108101659.e23003@posting.google.com>,
> fenrir111@hotmail.com (PeopleEater) wrote:
> 
> > Tulay <vctm1@gte.net> wrote in message news:<3B71B3D8.D6B233BF@gte.net>...
> > > PeopleEater wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Walt Horning <whorning@pipeline.com> wrote in message
>  news:<4g4slt47l6m44lj8it6js1io94ao3etfn3@4ax.com>...
> > > > > Environmentalists are mentally ill:
> > > > >
> > > > >  - they get a law passed to save gas by forcing car-makers to make
> > > > >    smaller, less safe cars causing more highway deaths
> > > > >
> > > > >       Burning less oil is more important than human lives?
> > > >
> > > > We've gone to war over oil. So yes, I guess it is.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  - they get a law passed to save endangered fish along some rivers and
> > > > >    the farmers cannot get water and are the ones now "endangered"
> > > > >
> > > > >       Fish are more important than humans?
> > > >
> > > > Endangered? How do you make that connection? Sure, farmers may get
> > > > stiffed, but I really doubt their jobs are more important than an
> > > > entire species. BTW, farmers' jobs have been endangered for the past
> > > > 50 or so years, ever since America started went from agriculture to
> > > > industry to a service based economy.
> > > 
> > > US farmers produce more food than any other farmer in the world. (And
> > > we do it with less farmers per acre.)
> > 
> > cite please. Personally, it seems rather unlikely to me, esp. since
> > agriculture is such a small sector of our ecnomy.
> 
> Small, but vital. Try eating without it!
> 
> 
> 
> > > > Fortunately for them, they get
> > > > massive government subsidies so they DON'T die out completely. If
> > > > anything, the biggest problem facing small farmers is corporatization.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >       Its "OK" for the farmers to die instead?
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, because they'll all die from starvation or dehydration.
> > > 
> > > Then the rest of the people of the world will die also.
> > 
> > how so? The US doesn't feed the world.
> 
> 
> OH?? What do you think we DO with our huge agricultural output? Try
> visiting the Port of New Orleans (or Sacramento) and see all the grain
> ships lined up there, loading grain destined for the world. We truly live
> in an international economy.

I agree that ew do produce a surplus, but the other guy I was talking
with seems to think that the US is the *only* nation that actually
grows food.