Re: Environmentalists are mentally ill.

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From: Tulay
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:22

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PeopleEater wrote:

> snip
> > > > OH?? What do you think we DO with our huge agricultural output? Try
> > > > visiting the Port of New Orleans (or Sacramento) and see all the grain
> > > > ships lined up there, loading grain destined for the world. We truly live
> > > > in an international economy.
> > >
> > > I agree that ew do produce a surplus, but the other guy I was talking
> > > with seems to think that the US is the *only* nation that actually
> > > grows food.
> >
> > We produce so much that if we were to stop sending it over seas, there
> > would be massive starvations in many countries.......and no, we are not
> > the only producers, but we get the most produced with the least human
> > effort.
>
> There already is massive starvation in many countries. Hell, most
> don't even have access to safe drinking water. Problem is with the 3rd
> World is not that most countries don't have the capability to grow
> their own food, but that they do so ineffeciently or their gov't
> ennacts laws or programs that prevent them form building a
> self-supporting agricultural economy. First off, the most effiecent
> food-producers are small farmers who own their land.

If that was true, the US would not be the greatest producer of food.
The BIG surpluses we have comes from hugh farms with hugh outputs
per acre.  Much greater than could be achieved by small farmers.

> They produce
> enough to feed their family and sell the surplus. However, in many 3rd
> World nations, gov'ts have typically supported the landed elites who
> refuse to relinquish control of the land, instead preferring to charge
> rent to tenant farmers (I'll post some examples ASAP). The other
> problem is the issue of 3rd World debt. Even countries that can export
> agriculture cannot compete with first-world nations, so they must find
> other ways to pay for their debt. This usually leads to switching
> agricultural production from foodstuffs to cash crops such as cotton
> in order to raise revenue.

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