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Article #4133Re: Environmentalists are mentally ill.
From: Orval Fairbairn
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 17:03
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 17:03
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In article <3B787D21.A2ED7FBF@gte.net>, Tulay <vctm1@gte.net> wrote: > PeopleEater wrote: > > > snip > > > > > OH?? What do you think we DO with our huge agricultural output? Try > > > > > visiting the Port of New Orleans (or Sacramento) and see all the grain > > > > > ships lined up there, loading grain destined for the world. We truly live > > > > > in an international economy. > > > > > > > > I agree that ew do produce a surplus, but the other guy I was talking > > > > with seems to think that the US is the *only* nation that actually > > > > grows food. > > > > > > We produce so much that if we were to stop sending it over seas, there > > > would be massive starvations in many countries.......and no, we are not > > > the only producers, but we get the most produced with the least human > > > effort. > > > > There already is massive starvation in many countries. Hell, most > > don't even have access to safe drinking water. Problem is with the 3rd > > World is not that most countries don't have the capability to grow > > their own food, but that they do so ineffeciently or their gov't > > ennacts laws or programs that prevent them form building a > > self-supporting agricultural economy. First off, the most effiecent > > food-producers are small farmers who own their land. > > If that was true, the US would not be the greatest producer of food. > The BIG surpluses we have comes from hugh farms with hugh outputs > per acre. Much greater than could be achieved by small farmers. NOT TRUE! In the Midwest, where I grew up, the small farmers consistently outperform the corporate farms, for one simple reason -- they OWN the land and make their own decisions! Most farms there are family-owned and operated. This production and inability of the gov't to control it produce surplusses. I do NOT advocate gov't control, as it would introduce other, worsemaladies than overproduction. Of course, we must define "small farmer". I would define it as "any farm encompassing less than 1 square mile of arable land."
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