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Re: Dreaming the impossible dream, more minorities in gifted classes

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From: Yer Pal Al
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:14
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On Nov 29, 1:33 pm, "Baxter" <lbax02.spamgu...@baxcode.com> wrote:
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> "Yer Pal Al" <caddyshack...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:5ceafd4a-5449-40ca-bdfe-0b770dc54d0e@w19g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 29, 9:49 am, "Baxter" <lbax02.spamgu...@baxcode.com> wrote:
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> >> Those IQ tests are designed by whites for European/Americans and don't
> >> take
> >> into account for differences in types of IQ.
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> >How do we get more black kids into engineering? There are about 300
> >engineers where I work and only one of them is black. 1% of my
> >graduating class was black (~3% were Mexican women) and almost all
> >flunked out.
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> It's often a matter of money - both in aquiring an education and then
> afterwards.  Does no use to sacrifice to get a degree and then find that,
> because of the color of your skin, you can't get a job in the field -- and
> if you do, the whites around you mutter about "Affirmative Action".

There's no affirmative action in private corpoations. If you suck as
an engineer you are going to get shit-canned. As it is Chinese and
Asian-Indians out-perform their demographic for obtaining engineering
jobs while other minorities and women aren't well represented.

> Rightwads claim that there is no racial bias anymore, but if that were true
> there would have been far more than 1% in your class.

I said 1% graduated. We might have started out with the 10-13% which
is statistically appropriate. My brother who went to engineering
school a few years before said they made a concerted effort to bring
in blacks and it was a disaster. Their problem was their K-12
education.

> >The commonality between all blacks that I know that are successful in
> >engineering and science is that they act like Republicans and reject
> >black identity culture.
>
> In essence, to succeed in the White Man's World, you have to become a White
> Man.

After disease, the 2nd most overwhelming factor for wiping out Native-
Americans was marrying white people. There are lot of people in this
country with Native-American blood in them and they are doing just
fine.

> The Indians noticed that too - and some famous Indians basically had
> dual personas:  one for living on the reservation, and another when out in
> the White Man's World.

The "White Man's World" is one where you get a job that pays enough to
take care of your family. The dichotomy of cultures that is being
promoted by liberals isn't working.
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From: Yer Pal Al <caddyshack.al@gmail.com>
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