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Started by mark
Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:55
Reporters , Freedom, Co2, pollution , A conspiracy for the ages
Author: mark
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:55
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:55
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major media reporters (or better description non reporters) , freedom, co2, pollution, a real conspiracy for the ages to allow harm new report claims the level of co2 in the air is increasing more then experts thought and its not good. Not enough is being done to mitigate the damages nowm from pollution harmful affects till years from now. Sure Obama is better but the guy smokes, I mean how caring you think he is to stop this poison ? . this is shameful. Sure its happening around the world too but we are not even protecting people who are most often exposed and we know the dangers now , much more then before. We can pinpoint where its happening, we just have people lie to describe the level of dangers. Stop coal now, get our govt to protect those most vulnerable including children.. I have noticed thru these years its getting harder and harder to breathe., One reason I believe is the percentage of carbon dioxide in the air keeps going up, the other is pollution that is allowed to kill people and government not doing enough. I agree the US is not the only government not doing enough, but I believe we have the power to do more and we know the consequences but still allow the harm without mitigating the damages faster and I believe we have the knowledge to do it now.Instead of spending billions of dollars on agencies to protect us from terrorists, why do , or did we import so many people we didn't know could be terrorists. That money could be better spend updating our military or fighting global warming. Another policy that mkes no sense, and yet again our media is no where to be found asking the hard questions. Other questions they don't ask? Why does you stock go down , when your money shows up in stocks and once your money gets out they go back up, who is giving al queda money? I have never heard a reporter ask this obvious question.Ok here is a conversation I had with someone who believed our ait was bad but not as bad as I thought. He wanted to know why would a government allow harming people? Here is my answer You said " Yes the lung association's site did give philly an F for it's quality of air in fact they gave it an F the last 3 month's, but the previous 3 month's before that they did not give philly an F and if they give it an F again next month that does not mean philly has the worst air in the country in fact they also gave Michigan, Ohio, Pittsburg, most of the citie's in California an F and other's so if you want to give fact's give all the fact's not just the one's you want to give that's just out and out biased" ..... I have to give all the facts. I wish I had all the facts cause it would even be worse then what I claim is happening. Your damn lucky someone is trying to warn you and if you don't believe you will be left with all the smart people who are staying here right? ? The people who pay taxes and care about their health are not going to say to themselves, gee the air in Pittsburgh is just as bad so we better stay here, if they are smart they are leaving. . Maybe you but not many else. I said I thought it was worse then just being in the top five So I can live with top three for worse pollution. Again because ten people commit murder don't mean the murder someone is on trial for here is not bad.! I don't understand why other cities having f air makes our city better? . You keep ignoring the difference with air ratings I pointed out before and you claimed the sites all say the same thing. I told you about the link fairview gave and this is the third message you totally ignored it why is that? I guess you don't want to be shown as wrong do you? . . If you had compared the airnow.gov ratings for our air the past 6 days or past year You would see why I said Chicago and Detroits air was better, I think I know what I am talking about been comparing the air for 10 years , probably in futile attempt to get people to notice how few days we get clean air compared to rest of nation. That part I agree with so far with you though is that ,, to get to change is almost impossible. . I think I know what I am talking about. when I said we had more days of above 35 particulate pollution then every major city in US maybe and only maybe except La. Since I think damage is done starting at 35 , its in that sense we have the most days of particulate pollution. We actually have the most days past 45 which use to be the level moderate was suppose to begin but the epa mysteriously decided to raise the bar to 50. what a joke. Again the American Lung association suggested years ago, that people living here were going to die prematurely for up to two years on average and then said they urged more studies . I suggest the studies would show what we know, that we get almost the most asthma and copd and depression and more then average heart disease and cancers. Why would the government allow poisoning people? Oh thats simple , whats good having around millions of immigrants and excons and blacks without jobs after they are 50 except being a drain on the gov payroll.. Actually why would a government allow harm even when its proven that the type of air produces harm , the real question is to what extent. not if. They know what coal does, its been shown over and over again. They have been trying for decades to find ways to reduce the aftermath but instead of stopping production till they do those downwind like Philly will continue to get more pollution from that then most of nation. I am the one suggesting the extent is beyond bad, its a slow holocaust and hey your free to stay around and wait for all the happy people here to stay healthy . How many cities do you know that has sirens going on every hour, helicopters hoovering looking for criminals, thousands of shootings, f rated air. the worse footprint for green house gas or close the most depression the most days without clean air ..most taxed or close Why do people stay here anyway? they think we get not too cold or hot weather and are close to the shore and mountains and NYC and Washington. Its ashame they don't know why they need jeff now faster then every place else. I assure you nothing will ever change in Philly. We will never be the best places to live, we will never have people claiming everything is great here,,, go to Sperlings and read the comments about Philly. We will never improve until the quality of life issues improve. one more thing, you said why would a government take part in a conspiracy to harm people? Thats a good question. In addition to what I already stated, that they know what coal and pollution does and don't do much to mitigate the harm faster. I will ask you this. Why did ex President Bush sign in legislation that disallowed people and lawyers to sue energy companies via pollution? The President said so they would deter bogus claims. I think its because they knew that people would eventually prove damage and they didn't care anyway to the extent people could not protect themselves or sue because of it. Our great free press never played up this at all. Thus the gov allows people who are in harms way to be murdered slowly Finally , you said I complained I didn't agree with epa too, well neither did the Supreme Court. so why should I have to think they are reliable ? In fact they are the ones citizens should believe since they are mandated by Congress to protect our envirnoment. and should be trusted the most and when they are accused of not doing that enough and its backed up by Supreme Court are you really surprised I suggest there is a conspiracy?
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