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Darcy Brown wrote:

> What euthanasia does do is take away someone life.

Golly gosh, you don't say?

> There are reasons why it
> should be considered and reasons why it should not.

Really insightfull stuff.

> However, it is a
> completely different ball game than "fixing someone's car" and to use that
> as an analogy is simply ridiculous and down right ignorant.

So you claim.  Shame that you failed miserably to backthis argument up.

> > > I have not argued at all about suicide - something which I believe is
> tragic, wrong,
> >
> > Corse its not. There are plenty of situations where suicide is perfectly
> appropriate.
> 
> I am beginning to think so too....maybe you should consider?

BLatant hypocrisy from someone howling about Rod not "sticking to the issue".

Of course, we've come to expect little else from you lot.

> > For precisely the same reason we do with everything else Pat. Some of
> > us arent very good at some things, and you dont get much practice doing
> > suicide. It may well make a hell of a lot of sense to get some assistance to
> > ensure that its done properly and you dont end up a vegy or worse instead.

 
> This is a damn grey area that we all can yell at each other about, but it
> comes down to a life and death situation that is different with every
> scenario.

Yet more of this remarkable insight.

> Euthanasia cannot be legal accross the board nor can it be
> completely illegal either.

I think you've managed to solve the whole thing.

> Someone in a "vegy" state, meaning they are
> living by electricity alone and have no hope of recovery, I do believe need
> to be killed, because they are already dead. Nature should take its course.

Already dead?  Not much point in keeping them around then, is there?

Of course, if we allowed legal recognition of living wills, problem solved.  They can 
switch the machine off on me anytime - put the organs that are still functional to good 
use.

> We can keep the body alive but if the mind and soul are gone there is no
> point. However, we tend to let Technology play the part of GOD.

Nope, you're trying to play the part of God.

> If you want to commit suicide-do it at
> your own house and on your own time.

Some of us would prefer a lethal injection in the copany of friends and family, to our 
families coming home to find our brains platered all over the wall.

Then there are those who lack the means or capability to commit suicide - quadraplegics, 
most obviously.

> It is not in the job description, or
> it should not be, for a doctor to kill you when he has the means to heal
> you.

Dickhead, you could only qualify for euthenasia in the NT if you were TERMINALLY ill.

You do know what that means, don't you?

> If there is no cure, I am sorry, but let nature do its thing. We all
> face it  at some point, some more painfully than others, but you cannot
> make it someone else's responsibility or task to kill you.

Yes you can boy.  Happens all the time, regardless of what you fundies would like to 
think.  There are many people whom I would willingly assist to die, should they ask.


> > Your 'old testament' is a complete dud. Hardly surprising given
> > its just a quite remarkably silly collection of fairy storys.

 
> You are a dud. The 'old testament' is a great book whether or not you are a
> christian or a jew or whatever. 

SO you think that people should be stoned to death for adltery?  That women should be 
kicked out of the house when menstruating?

Ever eaten pork boy?

> At least some people do have ideas they put in their minds.

I hope you don't include yourself in that group...

> Darcy
> College Student

What, Avondale college?  Are we supposed to be impressed?