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I have a General question that has been posted before in other
groups...had to weed out the to and from jokers, mine is this reply
following my   >> posting:







Clarifications >;)

1. Bikes were 'parked' outside on a side stand pedestal 'almost
upright', They were almost perpendicular, they were not in gear,
rockets in neutral, not steerllocked 'steering'. 

2. There were no actual witnesses to the event, but the shop owner
said he saw the whole thing '5 minutes after the incident' he claimed
I drove into them 
and called his adjuster and The Provincial Insurance and made a false
allegation
 which he does for a living I quess.

3. If U can knock over a properly parked bike with a feather touch,
I'll buy you a gold wing or whatever.

4. They can only win to extend their account...

5. No I ain't clumsy, the bikes fell behind  me after I walked away a
few steps, this the owner confirmed confidentially, that is what the
yard watcher saw..period.

6. How I touched the mirror of the bike to knock it over is a mystery
except that this 1 cylinder/full tanked was tooo upright, I mean
mirrors flex....right 

ThanX for your suggestions

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On Tue, 01 Sep 1998 05:10:46 GMT,
midaztch@spam,spam,spam,spamenteract.com (John) wrote:

>On Tue, 01 Sep 1998 04:26:31 GMT, vampire@istar.ca (Robert LaCasse)
>wrote:
>
>>
>>      
>>      I went to a Motorcycle shop and after I parked  I had a bad
>>experience with the way they park their bikes, when I brought mine in
>>for repairs....I accidentally upset at a very slight touch a 400lb top
>>heavy full tank single cylinder rice-rocket/not ff, which in turn fell
>>on another bike and it fell over and on another new rice-rocket....I
>>touchedthe mirror with my elbow...I think,.........actually I was
>>looking around for a guy with a string attached to the bike , waiting
>>for someone to pass-by... now I gotta pay, they can't park for shit at
>>this new Honda Center, maybe they wanna extend their account with
>>honda who knows, me of all people, you get the picture..all the other
>>places are kewl. OUCH$$$$
>>      Anyway who really is liabel for this wird incident?......The
>>owner has my bike I brought for an insurance claim, and trates it like
>>a piece of shit, slapped the mirrors and all..<;(
>>
>>Any Suggests...
>>
>Well, if you busted some of his stuff, he is gonna be angry, and gonna
>stuff up his claim. I would have thought.  Contact HIS insurance
>company to see what cover he has for this.
>(A similar thing happened to me in Thailand, the owner had
>insurance,but wanted ME to pay him cash. He claims, then keeps the
>cash. Not this one nuh uh. I found his insurance {was a hire car} and
>he relented immediately.
>
>One might suggest that their bikes are parked in such a way that an
>ordinary person cannot move about freely without the inevitable
>eventually happening. And I am sure they have liability insurance for
>it. (I mean, I am sure you were slightly injured trying to stop them
>falling, weren't you???   WEREN'T YOU.

Let's see if I got this right. This guy goes stumbling around, bumping

into bikes and manages to knock 2 bikes over. You suggest that he
SUES the owner of the parked bikes he damaged? Brilliant advise.
Would you feel the same way if someone knocked YOUR bike over?
I'll bet if someone knocked your bike over and damaged it, you would
not only expect him to pay for the damage but would probably have a
few choice words to the clumsy clod.  
>

>Rule 1. Don't pay.  Let THEM sue you...their lawyer might tell them
>they don't have a good enough case and you are off the hook.
>DO NOT admit liability. EVER.

It probably makes no difference whether he admits it or not. I'm sure
everyone in the store knows he did it.

>And if they are damaging your bike I would be inclined to seek out a
>friendly lawyer. Depending on the damage, which of course you made a
>note of before you sent it in there?

I didn't understand the part about mirror slapping. Was any harm done?

 
>
>And there's another magic word...accident.  Not carelessness.
>Don't pay them a fucking bean.  And find out what your rights are
>regarding them keeping your bike until you pay.

It is his bike, he can take it when he wants. After paying for any 
work done to it, of course.

>But don't pay....let them sue YOU.

Let me guess, you're a lawyer right? The lawyers on both sides will
make money, and he may wind up paying the shops legal fees also.
  
>See Better Business Bureau.

Why? So they can put a note in the shop's file advising customers not 
to knock bikes over?

>
>I hate these people at jap bike shops....more like car showrooms.
>Complete with cockhead salesmen.
>Moral:   Don't get a Honda....I have heard more stories here about
>Honda dealers than I want to.  Jap=cash.
>Explore Triumphs and Ducatis.  A word of advice :) Get some service
>too.

Of course, I'm sure if you knock over a new Triumph or Ducati by your
own
clumsiness, they will smile and give you a pat on the back. Probably
even
give you a couple hundred grand to help you get over the trauma of 
watching the bikes fall. After all, you were injured. RIGHT? 
>
>regards
>
>John
>
>"Watch out for them assholes..they everywhere"

There seems to be one looking back at you every time you pass a
mirror.

Burnout
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