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Article #631Re: Greens say wind power kills birds
From: Merlin Dorfman
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:10
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:10
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Jeffrey Siegal (jbs@quiotix.com) wrote:
: Merlin Dorfman wrote:
: > The deregulation bill, as passed, was exactly what the
: > utilities wanted and lobbied heavily for
: I don't believe that. First of all, the utilities were originally
: opposed to deregulation, and joined the negotiations only when they
: realized that it was going to happen. Second, there are plenty of
: provisions I can't believe were "exactly what the utilities wanted" such
: as being forced to sell off their power plants and being prohibited from
: buying long-term power contracts. They probably did like the 10%
: reduction, because they expected wholesale prices to drop even more than
: that, and the fixed retail price meant a lot of extra profit for them.
: That said, if they had gotten "exactly what they wanted," it would
: probably have been just a price floor and not a fixed price.
I haven't got the cites in front of me, but my recollection
is that the idea of deregulation originated with the utilities,
who saw the chance to get out from under a system where the price
they could charge, and the profits they could make, were limited
by a state commission.
If not the utilities, whose idea was it? (And don't tell me
"Steve Peace.")
: No, the only logical conclusion is that the deregulation law was a
: compromise. There was a lot in it for the utilities to like, but not
: everything.
I'm sure there were some compromises, but the idea and the
general form and most of the details were as the utilities
wanted.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 106ed4,33c7452f72f9b111 X-Google-Attributes: gid106ed4,public X-Google-Thread: 1141a2,411295b64aba9b7e X-Google-Attributes: gid1141a2,public X-Google-Thread: 10a942,e651d05d32dcacbe X-Google-Attributes: gid10a942,public X-Google-Thread: fd714,1f7b9be050e990de X-Google-Attributes: gidfd714,public X-Google-Thread: fb9af,411295b64aba9b7e X-Google-Attributes: gidfb9af,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-06-27 08:10:47 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!sfo2-feed1.news.digex.net!intermedia!feedwest.news.agis.net!us.telia.net!news.mainstreet.net!bug.rahul.net!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!dorfman.a2i!dorfman From: Merlin Dorfman <dorfman@rahul.net> Newsgroups: talk.rumors,alt.politics,ca.general,alt.california,tx.politics Subject: Re: Greens say wind power kills birds Followup-To: talk.rumors,alt.politics,ca.general,alt.california,tx.politics Date: 27 Jun 2001 15:10:34 GMT Organization: a2i network Lines: 32 Message-ID: <9hct1a$nr6$1@samba.rahul.net> References: <3B2321A1.266DCA4B@newsguy.com> <9077777777777777777777704kfg49@pezland.net> <9g050k$jbv$1@samba.rahul.net> <3b32b92e.829673@news> <9h5mt1$a0e$1@samba.rahul.net> <3b36a2e3.1479196@news> <9h6g91$eld$1@samba.rahul.net> <3B3716D3.5FF9EA9D@quiotix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: waltz.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-User: dorfman X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]