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Article #633Re: Greens say wind power kills birds
From: RHayes Jr
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:59
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:59
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You know, you're all forgetting one thing... *the government never deregulated anything.* It just "alterna-regulated" the system... fixing the price the electric companies could charge CUSTOMERS, yet freeing up the prices electricity PRODUCERS could charge.... The equivalent of nailing both your feet to the floor, then offering to pull the nail out of ONE foot-- then wondering why you only walk in a circle. -- RH Junior Freelance Artist/Cartoonist http://www.geocities.com/blue27a http://nipandtuck.keenspace.com http://UTLT.keenspace.com "Merlin Dorfman" <dorfman@rahul.net> wrote in message news:9hct1a$nr6$1@samba.rahul.net... > Jeffrey Siegal (jbs@quiotix.com) wrote: > : Merlin Dorfman wrote: > : > The deregulation bill, as passed, was exactly what the > : > utilities wanted and lobbied heavily for > > : I don't believe that. First of all, the utilities were originally > : opposed to deregulation, and joined the negotiations only when they > : realized that it was going to happen. Second, there are plenty of > : provisions I can't believe were "exactly what the utilities wanted" such > : as being forced to sell off their power plants and being prohibited from > : buying long-term power contracts. They probably did like the 10% > : reduction, because they expected wholesale prices to drop even more than > : that, and the fixed retail price meant a lot of extra profit for them. > : That said, if they had gotten "exactly what they wanted," it would > : probably have been just a price floor and not a fixed price. > > I haven't got the cites in front of me, but my recollection > is that the idea of deregulation originated with the utilities, > who saw the chance to get out from under a system where the price > they could charge, and the profits they could make, were limited > by a state commission. > If not the utilities, whose idea was it? (And don't tell me > "Steve Peace.") > > : No, the only logical conclusion is that the deregulation law was a > : compromise. There was a lot in it for the utilities to like, but not > : everything. > > I'm sure there were some compromises, but the idea and the > general form and most of the details were as the utilities > wanted. >
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