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Article #649Re: Greens say wind power kills birds
From: Neal Atkins
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:53
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:53
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On 10 Jun 2001 23:03:27 GMT, Merlin Dorfman <dorfman@rahul.net> wrote: >: NO! That's NUKLEAR power! Why, those electrons, once "over-excited" >: by being exposed to that NUKLEAR REACTOR go crazy and will jump right >: out of the wall socket and get you! Look at France why they get 75% >: of their power from NUKLEAR REACTORS and look at how many MILLIONS of >: French people die from it ever year! Same with Japan. > >: Don't you remember 3 Mile Island and all the MILLIONS that were killed >: there? > > Yes, and I remember Browns Ferry and how close it came to >killing thousands if not millions; and I remember Chernobyl. Close? Oboy, now "close" is a factor. And nobody but the ruskies use an unprotected reactor like Chernobyl. > >: I'm sure the POLITICALLY CORRECT Kalifornicators would rather do >: without than use NUKLEAR power! > > It may or may not have been a wise choice, but it is the >choice that was made, and it is NOT responsible for the present >problems. The utilities would have been no more willing to >invest in nuclear generating plants than in conventional ones-- >maybe less, since they cost so much more and take longer to >return any money on the investment. Yeah, sure. And having a few extra megawatts wouldn't solve the problem either. Enjoy the summer. Pay for your electricity or sweat in the dark. > >: I heard that 70% of the power used in Kalifornia is used by >: BUSINESS'S! Why all they have to do is SHUT DOWN about 1/2 of the >: BUSINESS'S and they'll have all the power they need. > > We're working on it. :-) I read that while the conservation >goal was only 7%, 11% has actually been achieved. I susptect that >this is not due to public-spirited turning off of lights etc., but >to a reaction to higher prices, and to reduced demand due to the >slowing economy. Or more likely it's because some energy intensive industrys are shutting down rather than risk finanical ruin due to the unpredictable blackouts. Like the Aluminum wheel maker that lost hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of molds when the power went off and they couldn't get the molten aluminum out of the machine. He's moving to Texas or Mexico. Or the cardboard maker that lost millions of dollars worth of production when the power went off and glue used in the manufacturing process hardened in the machines. He was out of business for 2 weeks while trying to fix the machines and now that they are fixed, he won't run them unless and until he has a GUARANTY that the juice won't go off. Of course in the meantime, his entire staff is unpaid and I guess on "welfare". Or the Alcoa aluminum smelter that shut down production since they could make more money selling their electricity to the state than making aluminum. More unemployment. Yeah, you guys are doing a bang-up job. Pretty soon there is going to be a dust bowl in reverse. Millions of broke, desparate people with their meager goods lashed to their Camaros fleeing the bankrupt state. Just don't come to Texas. We don't need anymore socialists than we already have.
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