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Article #663Re: Greens say wind power kills birds
From: Merlin Dorfman
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:52
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:52
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Jure Sah (jure.sah@guest.arnes.si) wrote:
: Merlin Dorfman wrote:
: > : Again the mindset, you should be -happy- that each and every month
: > : you are paying EXTRA on your electricity bill to help take apart
: > : a working power plant during the energy crisis. Too Bizarre.
: >
: > Californians have made it clear that they are willing to
: > pay extra for clean, non-nuclear power. Our choice, we made it,
: > we are willing to live with it.
: Just one question: What is not clean in nuclear power?
Nothing. People seemed to want power that was neither
polluting or nuclear, and that is their choice, as long as they
are willing to pay for it. If we got to a situation where the
supply of power could not be maintained without either polluting
sources or nuclear, we would have to re-think it; but that has
not happened, and it is not why we are in the present situation.
: P.S.: You close down nuclear power plants because they're unsafe, you
: avoid wind turbines because they 'kill birds', you close down just about
: anything your dear friends -- machines need to live. You might as well
: stop breathing, because -- you know -- you exhale greenhouse gases. Come
: on... for a cleaner world!
There are still two nuclear plants in California (San
Onofrio and Diablo Canyon). They were expensive as the devil
(pun intended) but they are safe, and they are still running,
and they are part of the reason power has been very expensive
in California for at least 10 years--and probably part of the
motivation for the deregulation. You would have a tough time
convincing Californians that nuclear is the route to cheap
power.
Wind turbines were not shut down by environmentalists;
they were shut down when the deregulation scheme eliminated
the requirement for the utilities to pay market rates for
power generated by independent companies.
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