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Article #825Re: Lying Demos run a very misleading ad
From: Daniel Packman
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:41
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:41
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In article <lajohvcmg60ka57clhuclo2sdtiv5ghk4o@4ax.com>, Uncle Samuel <stars@bars> wrote: >He had no idea it was 'lie" you idjit! There is an ongoing (over the last 30 years at least) problem with intelligence finding its way from the field to the top. There is a middle-management syndrome that tends to give the president the information he wants, not necessarily the information he needs. We saw this in action when the Shah was deposed leaving many here totally surprised. It seems that this administration is at least as bad as previous ones in creating this poor intelligence environment. .... >Did he lie when he said he wanted Soddem out? Of course not. He said this before he took office. >Did he lie when he said the guy was teror sponsor? Not a simple answer. The connection to Al Qaida is questionable. Intelligence answers are often subject to interpretation. In this case, one needed a careful analysis of just how much a terror sponsor he was. It is difficult to make such an analysis in the face of clear administration expectations. >Did he lie when he said the guy was trying to restart his weapons >program? Perhaps. Evidence of such programs is limited at best. >Did he lie about the UN violations? Saddam was clearly in violation of the full disclosure that was required, but his bluster may have been hiding nothing. -- Daniel Packman NCAR/ACD pack@ucar.edu
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107ec4,a5a063547e3e570f X-Google-Attributes: gid107ec4,public X-Google-Thread: 1026d8,a5a063547e3e570f X-Google-Attributes: gid1026d8,public X-Google-Thread: fb9af,5656df765424b120 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb9af,public X-Google-Thread: 106349,a5a063547e3e570f X-Google-Attributes: gid106349,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-07-21 15:51:02 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!nntp.wetware.com!attdv1!ip.att.net!frgp!ucar!not-for-mail From: pack@eos.ucar.edu (Daniel Packman) Newsgroups: talk.rumors,co.politics,alt.politics.bush,atl.politics Subject: Re: Lying Demos run a very misleading ad Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:41:18 +0000 (UTC) Organization: National Center for Atmospheric Research Lines: 44 Message-ID: <bfhq6e$pt1$1@news.ucar.edu> References: <114RP4nt50NF1r31219b@keech.net> <Xns93BFA4863C7F5DoDahDoDah@216.168.3.44> <lajohvcmg60ka57clhuclo2sdtiv5ghk4o@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mop2.eos.ucar.edu X-Trace: news.ucar.edu 1058827278 26529 128.117.37.8 (21 Jul 2003 22:41:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.ucar.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:41:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: pack@eos.ucar.edu (Daniel Packman)